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Water Methanol injection for Diesel?

Discussion in 'General' started by RRP, Apr 26, 2024.

  1. RRP

    RRP Kinda Superbikey

  2. RRP

    RRP Kinda Superbikey

    Where are all the diesel experts? :D
     
  3. zertrider

    zertrider Waiting for snow. Or sun.

    No diesel expert, but if I were doimg anything to a diesel truck my 1st call would be Banks.
     
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  4. kenessex

    kenessex unregistered user

    I am not a diesel expert, either, but I don't think you should be spending any more of your racing budget on a stupid truck.
     
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  5. notbostrom

    notbostrom DaveK broke the interwebs

    Racing and budget never go in the same sentence
     
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  6. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    I believe, you’ve misspoke with referencing “EGR temps”. I believe, you meant EGT’s? If so, runaway EGT’s are from too much fuel and not enough air. You can’t add one without the other or you’ll see climbing EGT’s. I can’t remember the temp at which GM’s ECM will step in, but, it’ll cut fuel/safeguard the engine, no matter what tune is loaded.
     
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  7. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    More fuel makes it cooler, not hotter.
     
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  8. RRP

    RRP Kinda Superbikey

    Yeah - I typo’d - should say EGT.

    Ken - as always thanks for calm and rational advice…
     
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  9. RRP

    RRP Kinda Superbikey

    Copy - I have inquires out in several directions. Appreciate it.

    M
     
  10. zertrider

    zertrider Waiting for snow. Or sun.

  11. Phl218

    Phl218 .

    My audi which had a whipple 140 ax added has a snow performance w/m injection setup. It injects it after the blower, only over 5k rpm and certain percentage of throttle. can’t tell what the egt’s are but i can tell it goes. Not a diesel though
     
  12. Bull&Bear

    Bull&Bear Member

    Just curious, how high are your egt's and for how long?

    You can also contact duramax tuner (aka calibrated power) out of woodstock Illinois and they can generally point you into the right direction as well.
     
  13. mastermind

    mastermind camping in turn 2....

    In a gasoline engine, yes.

    In a diesel engine, no.
     
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  14. notbostrom

    notbostrom DaveK broke the interwebs

    This is definitely heading into airplane on a treadmill territory
     
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  15. mastermind

    mastermind camping in turn 2....

    After installing an egt gauge on our diesel pusher motorhome, it altered my driving habits for sure.

    In my situation, running the wire from the back of the rig to the front was the biggest pita…. but well worth it.
     
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  16. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    My EGT’s dropped when the injectors got loose and my fuel economy dropped.

    Never heard of a richer mixture causing more heat unless you’ve got too much air coming in.
     
  17. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    That’s incorrect. You’re adding extra fuel, which creates the potential for a bigger fire. However, you also need to add extra air to stoke that fire and to completely burn the extra fuel. Not adding the extra stoke results in unburned fuel internally destroying the engine as well as getting pushed on out to the exhaust system and burning in there, which drives up EGT’s. You want 100% burn in the combustion chamber, where it actually makes power.
     
  18. dtalbott

    dtalbott Driving somewhere, hauling something.

    Would it be easier to just buy a bigger truck?
     
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  19. notbostrom

    notbostrom DaveK broke the interwebs

    Stop trying to bring login into a perfectly good argument
     
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  20. RRP

    RRP Kinda Superbikey

    Let me follow up and hopefully clarify the goal.

    I am not having temp issues etc. Truck tows and pulls well and is well suited for the hauler we have.

    The idea/goal is a preventative measure.

    I monitor EGTs (and all the other stuff) via CTS3 as I tow a lot and try to maintain the truck and keep it in good shape as I want to get a long life out of it.

    The injection set up was something I am considering to achieve that end.

    As always, real world info and experiences are welcome.

    Tks
    M
     
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