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To everyone that buys motorcycles..........

Discussion in 'General' started by Cam Morehead, Mar 28, 2017.

  1. Cam Morehead

    Cam Morehead Husband, Dad, Racer

    Either buy it used knowing you need to disassemble it and go over every inch of the bike OR buy a new bike and build it yourself.

    BTW, I typically just buy new bikes.... But occasionally buy used and allow time and money to take it apart and go through it. Example, I bought an R6 with spares. The suspension alone was worth half what I paid for it.... Guess what, I found a few things that needed attention...
     
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  2. I would like to think there are a few exceptions to that rule. :)
     
  3. casjoker

    casjoker Refusing middle age

    I think with every used bike (anything with an engine) you have to be aware it can go boom at any time. Also, if the bike supposedly has x, y, and z for parts and you don't have the time or expertise to inspect it then again buyer beware. There are shops that have solid reputations for a reason (Ken/GMD, Livengood, etc) 10 minutes of searching on here will highlight a few that don't...

    I have sold lots of stuff used and I try to set the bar lower than what it probably is to help avoid buyer remorse or any potential issues.
     
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  4. Cam Morehead

    Cam Morehead Husband, Dad, Racer

    Another observation...... If you trade your truck in at a dealership and have custom wheels, tires, stereo, flat bed, light bars, seats, tint, etc.... they will not give you any additional for your vehicle. It is still a Chevrolet 3500 in their eyes. I said that to say this, leave money in the bank to fix, repair, replace stuff on the bike.

    And yes, there are exceptions to the rule. I am one of the people that sells a bike in the best possible condition I can. If I buy a bike from Chip or JU, I would not question the condition either. That being said, these are RACE bikes..... I have had failures on my own bikes I built myself.... It is a mechanical thing with lots of moving parts....
     
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  5. EngineNoO9

    EngineNoO9 Well-Known Member

    Used for price. I enjoy going through stuff and doing work on them. There are limits and the price point has to be right for the level of work I'm expecting to need to do.

    You may be greeted with a few surprises along the way but if you check the most major things (it runs, no frame cracks, no visible form damage, no milky oil, it shifts, etc... I think most major issues can be avoided.
     
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  6. caboose

    caboose I love peanut butter!

    I bought my 2014 ZX10R already built and until I took it apart and put it back together it never really felt like "my bike"
     
  7. EngineNoO9

    EngineNoO9 Well-Known Member

    I agree with that but it being built already helps ease the pain if your throw it down the track. Totaling my RC51 that I did everything to hurt much worse than the gsxr 750 I got that already had everything. Mostly it was the $$$$ signs I saw when I had to lift it onto my trailer because it wouldn't roll.

    The other option is find a stock used un molested bike to convert. Still save money on initial purchase but get your satisfaction of building the bike.

    I'm all for typically avoiding other peoples projects when it comes to vehicles of any type as fixing other people's problems annoys me. But I'm also for saving money....
     
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  8. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew Registers Abusers

    sometimes you have secondary sellers that try to use those noted Pros coat tails as part of their pitch.

    Honestly there are enough competent shops out there that specialize in roadracing that paying a couple hours for a once over by a non-biased pro, is worth every penny & then some.
     
  9. Cam Morehead

    Cam Morehead Husband, Dad, Racer

    I have seen horrible repairs on stock bikes also.... Even taking the fairings off don't reveal all hidden treasures.... Example, if you lay an R6 on its side while it is running, you will starve it for oil.....
     
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  10. casjoker

    casjoker Refusing middle age

    And usually, a call to these shops can help verify any claims seller may be making. Pretty sure Ken keeps a file on all the stuff he works on.
     
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  11. Phl218

    Phl218 .

    what if it has carrillos?
     
  12. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    A course of penicillin should do the trick
     
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  13. EngineNoO9

    EngineNoO9 Well-Known Member

    This is why you have to be careful. Typically there would be signs of it tipping over. Plus a stock r6 would shut off from its tip sensor. Have to be willing to gamble a little but use common sense on certain bikes to avoid and when a bike has been abused or not.
     
  14. MELK-MAN

    MELK-MAN The Dude abides...

    and don't be a big pussy
    pick up a fucking phone, more than once if need be, to resolve issues during the transaction.
    get shit in WRITING once a deal is struck
    take pictures, yourself
     
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  15. deepsxepa

    deepsxepa Hazardous

    ^ nailed it.

    only thing i have to add is be sure to get two witnesses signatures.
     
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  16. MELK-MAN

    MELK-MAN The Dude abides...

    excellent idea. Just not sure if serious, or not so serious... lol
     
  17. deepsxepa

    deepsxepa Hazardous

    guess we could go all old school and use thumbprints to "seal the deal" instead?
     
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  18. busa99

    busa99 Well-Known Member

    Wax seal with the family Crest
     
  19. motoracer1100

    motoracer1100 Well-Known Member

    Brazilian wax , with DNA evidence still attached :D
     
  20. deepsxepa

    deepsxepa Hazardous

    a blood covenant. the wax and/or thumbprints were always red. red ink still has a special significance.
     

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