There is hope for my generation!!

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coming with a minor in political theory...you tend to deal with quite a few professors who express their political ideologies on a daily basis...as well as history classes...etc...your school not require those classes? Or did you graduate from Truckers U?

 

I don't try to label people...i just speak of my personal experiences...i had a college professor who i could have swarn was marxist...so when i talk about college professors..don't think that i am bulking all of them into one barrel...what i am trying to say is there is a liberal emphasis in colleges...so say you've got 10 professors...6 don't express opinion in their classes 3 express liberal views and one conservative...that's what i'm getting at...in college, my history professor was actually a libertarian...he actually said we should be able to own tanks if we so chose...so either way you go on the spectrum, you run into political activist nuts...i just remember a lot more examples of the liberal ones, but maybe that's because i wasn't offended by what the conservative folks were saying...as for people being grey...i couldn't agree more...i'm an arch conservative tree hugger myself...conservative on just about every issue but the environment where i'm about as liberal as you can be

 

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Sorry if I am slow but what does this mean?

 

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Not anything really...i don't believe in it myself, but many who are even more conservative than myself use this to justify why most teachers/professors are democrat

 

Dear Dumb Fuck #1 (I quit being patient with you a long time ago)

Have you got anything to support this statement? Found by WHO? and HOW?

Dear Dumb Fuck #2,
I have taught and/or worked at three colleges in the last 10 years, and spent almost that long as a student at three differnet campuses finishing my doctorate... ain't seen what you claim

Dear Dumb Fuck #3,

As I originally requested much earlier, find some quantifiable evidence to back up your claim that professors are "overwhelmingly liberal"

You haven't proved shit, now keep trying. Although I've lost patience I'm beginning to really get some laughs out of this.

Goodbye

 

Strange, teachers generally have an innate need to disperse knowledge rather than be quick to ridicule someone simply because they don't agree with their particular position...also resorting to language of that type generally indicates you are more prone to throwing tantrums than forming any valid rebuttals with which to reply I ain't tryin to get under you skin, just explaining stuff to you that i've experienced...also read my other post to chameleon..it explains my whole feelings toward the bias in the colleges a little bit better...

My quantifiable evidence primarily stems from personal experience...just as your evidence to show the converse of my position stems from your personal experience...and ultimatley what it comes down to is no matter how many news articles i find and post...you'll rag on the author or the publication and attempt to discredit the source because ultimately a subject such as this is a relativistic issue...your always going to see it your way, i'll always see it mine...so what's the point?

 

Didn't read this thread and I'm not going to.

But who cares what a bunch of sh@t nosed, know it all college kids have to say?

They should be out getting stupid drunk at a Frat Party on watered down Meister Brau and keep their politics to themselves. Snivelers!

 

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This is probably the biggest bunch of crap I've ever read and I'm hoping that you or anyone else doesn't actually believe it. First off, let's just look at our conservative government at the moment. The same ones that didn't tell Congress about the prison abuse in Iraq...how's that for accountability? The same conservative government that is systematically lowering pollution legislation and allowing big business to destroy anything in nature they want, which will eventually include humanity whether they know it or not. Accountability and responsibility are only shields for them to get what they want, it's not something they want for themselves.

Second, wasn't it the liberals marching with MLK, Jr.? How do you get liberals want to separate the races? That is BY FAR the most ridiculous thing I've heard you say. And even if the statement were true, how do you get that it leads to no accountability. Your argument is a joke. I hope you were telling the truth when you said you didn't believe all that, but if you didn't believe it, why did you post it?

Have you ever read anything by Marx? He wasn't as insane as people believe. He actually had some pretty good social theories. The problem with Marxism is that people corrupted it the same way they corrupted socialism and communism. The IDEAS were good, but the reality wasn't so good. That's what happens when humans have power. Just look at the Catholic church.

And the 10 professors with 6 saying nothing about their views and 3 expressing liberal views with 1 conservative. How does this show an overwhelming majority of liberals? 6 say nothing which shows an overwhelming majority of GOOD TEACHERS! You just shot yourself in the foot with your own example. Or maybe you're just upset that there are more liberals than conservatives. Sorry, but maybe most conservatives are more worried about making a buck in whatever way possible. Maybe if they were as worried about accountability and responsibility, they'd become teachers. Oh wait, there's no money in it...that explains it

Oh yeah, did I mention that I'LL be a college professor in about 3 years? I'll make sure I brainwash the students with my liberal ideas just so I live up to your expectations.

 

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Are you refering to the Teachings of Chairman Groucho??

"Last night I dreamed I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I'll never know."

 

Green, question for you: is it universities that turn teachers into liberals, or do liberals have a tendency to become teachers?

 

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I agree with certain areas of it...otherwise, why would democrats hate the ideas bush has put forth regarding testing of students and vouchers? I studied marxism for an entire year in college and it is an inept theory at best that has never worked in society...ps (you kinda sound like a commie now)

 

once again, you're attemtping to support a broad general concept with no more ammunition than your personal opinion. That's like using one pellet when even a shotgun shell won't suffice.

Dude, grab a dictionary and look up the word, wait, I'll do it for you...

Quantify: make explicit the logical quantity of, to make explicit or measure the quantity.

In other words, a quantifiable response would include some data or specific evidence... but since you don't know the word or it's application, you blew the task

Your personal experience might be the beginning seed for a a long process of providing a qualitative analysis. Keep in mind you're trying to argue ayour general claim with specific and personal experience... doesn't mix.

Look at it this way, you're trying to race Formula Extreme on an electric scooter.

She-yitt... it's getting bad when I have to give you instructions so maybe you can hold up your end. You should have learned this in Freshman Comp... guess you had a right wing teacher. (I shouldn't have, but that was just toooo easy)

 

Rather than "quantifiable evidence" I think he meant "anecdotal evidence." Just a little typo.

At this moment in time it is (bitterly) ironic that website's FAQ page has a message for those being tortured in Saddam's prisons not to worry, that "the cavalry is on the way."

I didn't look at the videos but read the three or so pages that seemed to matter. Imho it is simplistic drivel that most high school students could poke full of holes. If they wanted to bother.

 

Yesh...liberals are like talking to a wall...why bother...i could post 50k articles about how public colleges are far more liberal than conservative...but you would simply discredit the source or find some other aspect to whine about...and there is always this elitest arrogance protruding from the left..."you don't see things our way so you are obviously some podunk farm boy who doesn't know sh@t"...then conservatives come back with a valid argument and then liberals start with the name calling...it's like a broken record everytime i get into a debate...why do i need to waste my time to validate something you will simply disregard as conservative propaganda? And why is your personal experience so overwhelmingly more important and obviously adequate to justify your position, but my personal experiences are not...sounds like a double standard...probably because it is one...and since we're on the topic of "quantitative data", why don't you produce some evidence that shows america's universities aren't liberal or that are overly conservative???

 

A couple of things:
1) It is your contention that university professors are overwhelmingly liberals. The burden of proof is on you, not on people saying you haven't provided evidence backing up your assertion (and you haven't). You sound just like people who ask others to prove that God does not exist when they say there is no evidence he does.

2) Where did he say universities were conservative?

 

The concept is that no one person's experiences are sufficient to base those sorts of conclusions on. Yours or mine. It is the same as taking a poll and only bothering to ask one person.

Didn't they teach you that in college?

 

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Okay, I read that post on this thread and decided to quit while I was laughing my ass off.

That joke NEVER gets old.

 

Prolly not. I doubt he took any liberal arts courses...

 

ROTFL

 

Nice try attempting to help your buddy dodge the question...

So - basically you are stating that even though the burden of proof is on me, my personal experiences aren't as justified as a fellow liberals are, which was his only rebuttal as to why he doesn't believe the universities are liberal...

Let me ask you this, what form of evidence is worth my time researching to find that a person with a liberal bias would be willing to accept? Because i presented an article already which was immediately discredited as being from a conservative bias and an illegit source...So far my evidence has comprised of news articles, personal experiences, and the personal experiences of my highschool buddies from years ago...all of which came to the same conclusions at the different institutes they went to...and so far the only rebuttal i have gotten is...doesn't prove anything, your personal experiences are worthless, and that is a conservative article with a predisposed bias...i've tried to prove my point and in my opinion have done a decent job doing so...however, my liberal counterparts have merely said...'doesn't prove anything' and my personal experiences have justified otherwise and that's good enough for me...so why do i have to repeatedly rejustifiy my position when all i get everytime is "doesn't count?" Seems like i'm talking to a wall wasting my time