Tesla Truck reveal happening now.

Again, those articles and this discussion are irrelevant to the actual fact that IC cars will be largely phased out in our lifetime. The actual policy debate ended years ago. Electric cars are one potential solution, I'm sure many others will come along in the next 20-30 years as well. The world is changing, as is our way of life.

 

I wonder what will happen to all the gas stations. I'd be happy if they all became taco stands.

 

I'm gonna buy a CR500, tape a flashlight on the bars, and ride it everywhere just for spite.

 

Hydrogen stations. With tacos.

 

The mandated mid-term checkup on the CAFE law actually showed that the technology for increasing passenger vehicle and truck fuel economy was progressing faster and cheaper than originally projected, so that point is false. The law was passed in consultation with auto industry engineers and other technical specialists, and was designed to be revisited periodically in case fine tuning was required.
It will be up to you to adapt your life in a rural area to how the world progresses. It certainly puts us all at an advantage to understand what changes are coming so we can prepare for them. My 2019 TRD Pro Tacoma will probably lose most of its' resale value for sure.

 

Funny you say that. I saw yesterday that Hyundai, Toyota and Honda all have hydrogen-powered vehicles for sale now. Are there hydrogen filling stations anywhere in the USA other than the 2 or 3 in California?

 

The fleet numbers are full of exceptions that make it meaningless. There is no fleet of vehicles that is actually meeting that standard. That is not a successful law or successful technology, it's working the numbers to fit an impossible goal.

 

yeah... policy debates just "end"...

I'm open to the possibility that you're right, but your insistence that your opinion is an inevitable, written in stone fact is a sure fire way to not be taken seriously.

 

It's not my opinion at all. I've been following this for decades, because it affects my livelihood. What I wish would happen is completely irrelevant to the reality of what is happening.

 

The world's auto manufacturers don't think it's meaningless. Complex doesn't mean the same thing as meaningless. I'm pretty sure all the major auto manufacturers meet or exceed current CAFE standards. The few that don't pay fines to the Federal government.

 

It's not complex. They say you have to average X amount, but they can't meet that yet so take out all these ones that hurt the number so it looks like they're doing good. How does that help anyone?

 

Apologies in advance, I hate using Wikipedia as a technical reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_fossil_fuel_vehicles

 

All that said, that Cybertruck is one ugly motherfucker in the pictures, I don't care how many F150's it can pull backwards. Elon launched the wrong car into space.

 

The main problem I see is that until the Gretas all pull their heads out of their collective asses and embrace nuclear or there is a major technological breakthrough there is no way that so called "green" energy can meet the demands of the country. California can not even keep the lights on using "dirty" energy. And that is before the power grid gets overloaded with these soulless overpriced golf carts...

 

That stupid movie and Three Mile Island happening 2 weeks apart didn't help public perception of nuclear power in this country.

 

The grid, nor battery technology will allow that to happen in our lifetimes. Laws are arbitrary, physics is what matters.

 

You could at least find a link that supports your hyperbole better. All I see is a list of countries PROPOSING stopping sale of new ICE vehicles in 10-30 years. As far as "in our lifetime", I could see making the cars in my driveway last for my lifetime if I had to.

 

No law or physical principle says that everyone needs a vehicle in their driveway.

 

Believe me, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I find this whole idea of internet "debate club" to be destructive overall. The facts bear out what I've said, and every major auto manufacturer agrees. Like it, don't, no matter to me.

 

So how are all of us in rural area's supposed to get around ? Do I need to go get a horse and buggy from my Amish neighbors ?