Switching between Pirelli slicks and dots

Discussion in 'General' started by svracer22, Jun 20, 2019.

  1. svracer22

    svracer22 Well-Known Member

    I currently use the supercorsa dot race tires, sc2 front and sc1 rear. If i switch to the superbike slicks in the same compound are the tires similar? Or am I going to be chasing setup? This is on a 600. Reason I ask is the tire guy is out of dots and willing to substitute slicks.
     
  2. 2blueYam

    2blueYam Track Day Addict

    The tire guy should know the answer to this question.

    For my take: the compounds are different, but they should be close enough in dimensions and construction that you won't be chasing setup issues. This is assuming you are running the same size in both compounds. Make sure you set the pressures properly, as the recommended pressures will be a bit different. The Superbike slick will most likely want 1-2 lb in the front than the dot. The vendor should post the recommended pressures at your event if they are there.
     
  3. skidooboy

    skidooboy supermotojunkie

    dot race is like a slick with the sipes cut it in. dimensions are the same. Ski
     
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  4. dsapsis

    dsapsis El Jefe de los Monos

    Why are you using a harder front? That seems backwards.
     
  5. Gecko

    Gecko Well-Known Member

    This. I made no setup changes. Though there supposed to be basically the same, I like the slicks a lot better.

    I use the harder front as well. I've tried the sc1 front, but I get better front end feel from the harder sc2 ... very reminiscent of my beloved, but discontinued, Dunlop UK NTEC. That said, most of my buddies use the sc1 front with good success. Imho, it comes down to personal preference.
     
  6. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    Really common with pirelli actually.
    Pirelli are really soft so the harder compound front is a little more stable under breaking and entry.
     
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  7. Slinky001

    Slinky001 Well-Known Member

    It was recommended to me to use SC2 of front and SC1 on rear of RSV4 by tire vendor with Pirelli slicks.
     
  8. gixxerboy55

    gixxerboy55 Well-Known Member

    Aren't the superbike slicks a trackday tire with harder compound.
     
  9. skidooboy

    skidooboy supermotojunkie

    i was recommended the same sc2 front, and sc1 rear. i ended up preferring sc 1 front and sc2 rear, for most temps. when it gets warmer i prefer sc1, front and rear. havent been able to try the sc0, or sc3. it is like oil, choose YOUR poison. Ski
     
  10. mpusch

    mpusch Well-Known Member

    You might be thinking of the Superbike Pros.
     
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  11. Greenhound386

    Greenhound386 CEO of Wheelies for Children

    As long as you're comparing apples to apples, they are the same dimensions and same compounds. For example, there shouldn't be a difference between the SC1 compound when comparing slicks versus DOTs.

    I will note that they might come in different sizes, and that would be something you'd need to account for. For example, the slicks come in a 200/60, but the DOTs only come in a 200/55. You mentioned a 600, though, so I imagine you're riding on a 180. Depending on what you're riding, you can get the same size in either tire. I use the 180/60 slicks. Note that these are the same dimensions as the 180/60 DOTs, but the slicks do have a couple of more options for compounds if you wanted (really just SC3 and Qualifying).

    https://www.pirelliracer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2019-Pirelli-RR-Fitment-guide.pdf
     
  12. Greenhound386

    Greenhound386 CEO of Wheelies for Children

    The Superbike slicks are definitely a racing tire. They come in the various SC compounds.
    https://www.pirelliracer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2019-Pirelli-RR-Fitment-guide.pdf

    The Supercorsa TD tires (which are DOTs) are geared more towards someone who only does trackdays instead of racing. The TD compound is unique to this tire.
    https://www.pirelliracer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2019-Pirelli-TD-Fitment.pdf
     
  13. Pneumatico Delle Vittorie

    Pneumatico Delle Vittorie Retired "Tire" Guy

    Ah no, there is a lot of flexibility with front and rear compounds and their use.
     
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  14. Pneumatico Delle Vittorie

    Pneumatico Delle Vittorie Retired "Tire" Guy

    You're right, and these are the same tires Bautista is using to win so many WSBK races:D
     
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  15. Pneumatico Delle Vittorie

    Pneumatico Delle Vittorie Retired "Tire" Guy

    The Superbike Pros that have been gone for what 6 years?
     
  16. Pneumatico Delle Vittorie

    Pneumatico Delle Vittorie Retired "Tire" Guy

  17. svracer22

    svracer22 Well-Known Member

  18. svracer22

    svracer22 Well-Known Member

    I'm going to try the slicks. Sounds like they are the same dimensionally and close in feel.
     
  19. Pneumatico Delle Vittorie

    Pneumatico Delle Vittorie Retired "Tire" Guy

    Oops I forgot to comment. The tires are the same dimensions while the compounds and constructions are a bit different. But at most peeps level you probably won't feel much difference. At Wsbk supersport level those riders probably would.
    And the DOTs are around so you can get them later after he restocks
     
  20. 2OLD2BFAST

    2OLD2BFAST Well-Known Member

    I have gone back and forth between the two as for a long time there were race orgs that required DOT's for Superstock and allowed Slicks for Superbike classes. No significant difference at all on Pirellis, but then again I am way to old to be fast.
     

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