Small batteries

I want room for other electronics in the subframe tray.

Shorai/Ballistic - basically an OEM battery, minus the weight.

Who are the other players in the lightweight market?
Is there no "small" part to these new-fangled lightweight batteries?

Who makes the smallest, lightweight, non-POS batteries capable of residing in a motorcycle's charging system?

 

MOTY?

 

I just bought a WPS Featherweight for my VFR 400. I'll report back when it's installed. It seems pretty small and very light. That price is hard to beat too. https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_...PS+Featherweight+Lithium+Battery+HJTZ5S-FP-IL

 

The other players are irrelevant.

Ballistic.

That is all.

 

The WPS is basically the same size as my OEM YTZ7.

MOTY...thanks. I think I'm looking for that style if that's what it takes to go small, but I'm not too keen on the shrink-wrapped "case".

Ballistic has a 4 cell...not sure it can't start an inline 1000cc, not sure it can. Anyone know for sure? Trackbike only.
Going to an 8 cell gives me surety that it will start a 1000, but it takes up the same space as the OEM.

 

They have other models/sizes.

 

You will struggle with a 4 cell in a Liter bike. It is possible, but you will need perfect conditions...and better hope it doesn't get cold.

 

BTW - I have also had great success with Full Spectrum batteries.

 

A Ballistic 8 cell is not the same size as OEM. It's substantially smaller. Unless they've majorly changed something since I bought mine.

 

I had a bad experience with ballistic batteries. It may have been a dud but it was super cold out and it couldn't start the bike. I ran it completely empty trying to do so and it wouldn't recharge. Bought a Anti-Gravity battery and haven't had a problem. I also like the geometry of the 4cell antigravity vs the ballistic.

 

I ran the same 4-cell Ballistic in my 675 for 5 years...and never once had a problem. When it was super cold (near freezing), I would just press the starter for a lil while, then give it 30-60sec. Pressing the starter would "energize" it, then when I tried it again it would usually start. Sometimes I might have to do it a 2nd time, but not usually.

...and I never once put it on a Battery Tender. It would sit there not doing shit all winter, still on the bike. Then at the Tally opener, even when it was real cold, I would just have to give it that first bump to wake it up, and after that it worked fine.

 

this is a battery i haven't heard discussed in a while. back in 2007 I purchased a lithium 4 cell battery from Moty for dirt cheap for my gsxr600 with quick disconnects. i never used a charger/tender and would take the battery out after trackdays (stored indoors). i used this battery for 6 years WITHOUT a single issue. I sold the gsxr600 to my friend and he had it for another 3 years until it finally died 2 seasons ago. probably one of the best purchases i've made. prices now seem to be inline with competitors, so not much to be saved...but it was a great product.

 

Ballistic has two battery lines. The EVO 3 batteries are setup to mimic the size and shape of common power sports lead Acid batteries for drop in installs that provide a nice weight savings.

EVO 2 batteries are designed to be as compact as possible while still being in a solid casing, so you get both weight and space savings. Make sure you're looking at EVO 2 batts when going for the smallest footprint. For the record my EVO 2 8 cell is 6 years old now, gets abused with Battery Tenders between races on a total loss bike, nothing over the winter and is still kicking. It's now got a somewhat easier life on my R6 with a working charging system.

 

While a 4cell could start a 1000 a couple of times it will not do it for long. 8cell EVO 2 is the smallest lightest option we offer. the measurements are below.

4.5"(L) x 2.5"(w) x 4.25"(h)

 

No in all fairness I don't believe that they are a bad company or even that their product is poor, I just personally have a bad experience. I have got a dud Optima yellow top, they replaced it for free and that one has lasted 10ish years.

 

OEM = 2.7-ish x 4.125 x 4.375
Shorai's smallest (no 4 cells) = 2.28 x 3.5 x 4.45, half inch thinner, one inch shorter.
Ballistic's smallest 8 cell = 2.8 x 4.2 x 4.5, it's a wash. EVO2 or 3, doesn't matter.
WPS's smallest = same approximate dimensions as the three above.

So Broome says it's gotta be perfect conditions, but ran a 4 cell on a 675 for 5 years...and never once had a problem! I really don't see that being much different than an inline 1000. I'd be more concerned about tryin' to start a big single.

My historical useage is as follows:
Start bike, ride for twenty-thirty minutes, stop for 40-60 minutes. Repeat 5-6 times a day, 2-5 days in a row, 25 +/- days a year.
What won't a 4 cell do in this scenario for the next 5 years or so?

 

Ive had 2 ballistic battery failures. Stay away from them. Also they only have a 1 year warranty that should tell you something right there. Ive had zero problems with my 2 shorais.

 

Did you ever contact Ballistic?