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Navy SWCC boats captured by our new friends!

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by Sacko DougK, Jan 13, 2016.

  1. Sacko DougK

    Sacko DougK Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised to not see a thread on this. So, here are my thoughts. I'm getting really geared up over this Iranian boat thing. Video shows some missing weapons from mounting points, but there are .50 cal guns on board. So why not fully armed, they did have at least a couple of guns for protection. Why would you surrender to smaller, less heavily armed craft? Were these boats crews stripped of their ammo? Supposedly the Iranians took their GPS gear. That is US Government property. Are we just going to allow the Iranians to take military property from us?? If they were left defenseless by not issuing ammunition....WTF!!! In that region??!! They just fired missile in close proximity of a carrier!! If that is the case, then leadership failed these men and woman. Have we forgotten that Iran killed more Americans than anyone in Iraq and Afghanistan by supplying weapons, training, and quite probably direct forces in both places? Have we forgotten everything the Iranians have done to us and the region for decades now?? WTF will it take for leadership to realize that they are not our friends, they do not want peace with us, that they will do anything they cant to harm us. I take that back, this is a leadership failure!!
     
  2. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    They went into Iranian waters and got released the next day. It could've been worse.
     
  3. Sacko DougK

    Sacko DougK Well-Known Member

    I have issues with that. Especially since they have reportedly kept the GPS's from those craft. First off, boats and aircraft skirt lines all the time. Whether intentionally or not. In those cases, you generally give them a verbal alert, then an escort out. You do not just capture crew and equipment. Especially another military vessel that is armed. I also do not put much faith in what the Iranians say about penetrating their territorial waters. I would want to see collaboration of that before I put any faith in that statement. We could verify that by going through the GPS logs. Oh, no we cannot. Hmmmmm
     
  4. Sweatypants

    Sweatypants I am so smart! S-M-R-T... I mean S-M-A-R-T!

    Why do you care so much? Its basically hardly anything more than a non-issue. Nothing happened, everyone is fine, blah blah blah... done to "the region"??? lol fuck, where is your raving doomsday rant about Saudi support?

    There's no Iran supplied anything in Afghanistan homeslice... wrong team.
     
  5. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    Obama was just jealous of Carter's hostage crisis.
     
  6. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    Obama was just jealous of Carter's hostage crisis.
     
  7. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    Well shit, looks like the remote start in Sarah's car is more advanced than military technology. I can monitor its location from anywhere.
     
  8. Rob P

    Rob P Well-Known Member

    I suspect that once they were adrift in or near Iranian waters they scuttled the weapons.
     
  9. Sacko DougK

    Sacko DougK Well-Known Member

    Wrong, Iran has been supplying both sides of their border. The enemy of my enemy is my friend works both ways. It is very much an issue, and something did happen. Boat crews were held at gun point on US Navy vessels. That is a very big deal.
     
  10. Sacko DougK

    Sacko DougK Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure they were adrift. I've heard that stated as speculation, but nothing definitive. There is also video released by Iran of the weapons they did seize along with .50's mounted onboard the vessels. I really hate to say this, but I can completely see the Navy restricting them from having ammo for fear of a misfire.
     
  11. tzrider

    tzrider CZrider

    In the perspective of macro-politics...

    Tempest.

    in.

    Tea cup.
     
  12. cajun636

    cajun636 Honda Junkie.

    Was it a SWCC boat? Like and ACTUAL SWCC boat?
     
  13. Sacko DougK

    Sacko DougK Well-Known Member

    I say SWCC as a group/community. I think the actual boats are Swedish boats used by riverine squadrons.
     
  14. Sweatypants

    Sweatypants I am so smart! S-M-R-T... I mean S-M-A-R-T!

    show me a single example of iran supplying any taliban or sunni hardliner wahabbist group? you're full of shit.

    and again, so what... if they were in their territory thennnnn......

    oh i guess you're one of those people that think sovereignty is a one way street. that's cool...
     
  15. Sacko DougK

    Sacko DougK Well-Known Member

    In the mind of someone who is disconnected and arrogant, sure I can see how can say that. What you fail to grasp is that we have sailor all over the world. The protection of the ships, bases, and people is vital. If you change your cup to a teapot and open up even more, you will see that they have continued a series of escalating actions directly at our naval forces in the Persian Gulf. What happens the next time? Do one of our sailors get shot while having weapons on them? Does the fact that they just surrendered and embarrassed us around world inspire more actions? Do other countries see this and start to push their weight against us? It's very easy to minimize this if you've never had skin in the game.
     
  16. Sacko DougK

    Sacko DougK Well-Known Member

    First link in a google search,
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-backs-taliban-with-cash-and-arms-1434065528

    Should I keep going? Seems the only one full of shit here, is you.

    And no, as someone who has been actually been on the ADIZ of many countries around the world I have much more respect and understanding of it then you probably ever will.
     
  17. cajun636

    cajun636 Honda Junkie.

    I was trying to clarify because I was stationed there for 2 years. As a combat coxswain. I know what they have on the boats.
     
  18. speeddaddy

    speeddaddy Well-Known Member

    yaeh but you never BEEN to Brownsville homes lol
     
  19. Sweatypants

    Sweatypants I am so smart! S-M-R-T... I mean S-M-A-R-T!

    one single article with un-named sources (psshh...) from a Saudi shill writer... stop reading Daily Beast re-writes...

    "hey hey... umm, hey guys... this guy over here umm... he's a friend of my friend's 2nd cousin that i met one night Peshawar covering the booming underground club fashion scene there... let's call him Abu Muhammad... well HE says..."

    uggghhh...

    what do you think the current IS-Assad/Hezbollah, Iran/Saudi, Houthi/Saudi thing is about? and who do you think even created the Taliban? cause here's a hint... it wasn't Iranian money that set up all those indoctrinating madrasas. get fuckin serious.
     
  20. Lawn Dart

    Lawn Dart Difficult. With a big D.

    Let me get this straight... The Navy has rowboats? :D

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