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Mueller report is out....kind of

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by Motofun352, Mar 22, 2019.

  1. G 97

    G 97 Garth

    Huh? What does this have anything to do with your statements that I quoted earlier?

    And after two years and millions of wasteful dollars spent - no Trump/Russian election collusion.

    So, what exactly is the point that you are failing to make again?
     
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  2. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    I guess Hillary needs to re-title her book, "What Didn't Happen".
     
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  3. Spang308

    Spang308 Well-Known Member

    Sometimes you gotta fight the good fight.
    If it just saves one child!!!
    :crackup:
     
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  4. charles

    charles The Transporter

    C'mon, you're a smart guy. Tell me, since when does 'media reporting' constitute either facts or truth? Serious reporting went the way of the dodo bird a long time ago. In war, as the old saying goes, truth is the first casualty. Same for political 'wars.' Who cares what the media reports? We all know they make mistakes and some of those mistakes are big ones. If there is even a remote hint that foreign operatives or governments are involved in our election process, then the appropriate investigative agencies have the duty to investigate, no matter where the road leads. and the media has some degree of responsibility (if they want to keep the money coming in) to report on those activities.

    Also, I'd like someone here to describe, in as brief concise paragraph, exactly what the 'right, left, and center' is, in political terms. If there is an authoritative source that gives such descriptions, kindly point me in that direction. I confess to being confused when such terms are used. For example, would i find a staunch Republican who wants gun confiscation? Or a Democrat who wants no infringement on the 2nd amendment? Could i also find someone (who does not pledge loyalty to either major political party) who isn't certain of what position to take, i.e., in the 'center'? School me.
     
  5. Robby-Bobby

    Robby-Bobby Steeltoe’s Daddy

    I won’t rest until Snacktime comes out of his mommas basement and give me a quote!!!
     
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  6. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    It has always been so, but not nearly as blatant, at least not without being specifically labeled commentary. IMHO, this went way beyond mistakes. This was intentional and certainly not at all balanced.
     
  7. 2blueYam

    2blueYam Track Day Addict

    If you are saying this investigation should have looked into Hillary's contacts with Russia, I agree. That doesn't mean that looking into Russia's social media campaign or the Trump's Russian connections was a waste of time.

    The investigation was not a complete waste of time as it indicated 13 Russians that were interfering with our election. Russian interference in our election was what Mueller was tasked with finding and he found some and indited people. What don't you understand about that?

    Just because the media is inaccurate doesn't mean I have to follow suit.
     
  8. TXFZ1

    TXFZ1 Well-Known Member

    Rosenstein's formal charge for the special council specifically calls for Trump to be investigated.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408-Rosenstein-letter-appointing-Mueller-special.html

     
  9. Spang308

    Spang308 Well-Known Member

    My issue isn't that it was investigated. My issue is how it was investigated or more specifically how the investigation started.
    If the FBI got a tip that Russia was in bed with Trump and looked into the tip, that's fine. That should certainly be looked into. When political propaganda is presented as the only evidence, and it is known by the investigators where the evidence came from, it should have been a quick look see and "yup, this is bullshit." Case closed.
    That's not how this went down...at all. This was a previous administration conspiring with the candidate of their own party to defeat a candidate of the opposing party by allowing the FBI and DOJ to be weaponized and used as a political hit squad. To top it off, once their plan failed and Trump won the election, they pursued the "insurance policy" in an attempt to get rid of him. When all that failed, they brought in Mueller to take one more swing and then sweep up the mess. They got caught with their pants down (pantsuit in Hill's case).
    The thought that this whole scandal played out without Obama being aware is naive at best.
    The whole left, middle, right labeling is objective. The entire spectrum has shifted left in my opinion. What was once maybe considered a moderate position on an item now makes you an alt right monster in many eyes. Right or wrong.
    I will say this, I don't remember many marches with pussy hat wearing protesters after Obama's election. I couldn't stand the guy's policies and thought he was a straight up snake, but I didn't spend every waking moment mother fucking the guy and I don't seem to remember the media doing it either. He was still our president even if I didn't agree with how he governed. With Trump you have people vocally hoping the he gets impeached or the economy tanks so he loses his re-election. Rooting against your country makes you a traitor in my opinion. The irony is, most of the yelling is done by celebrities that are basically immune from an economic downturn and then echoed by their sheep who aren't.
    Trump's no saint, and he's far from perfect, but he's the guy we needed. Who else could have weathered this storm and exposed these rats?
     
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  10. TXFZ1

    TXFZ1 Well-Known Member

    “I don't know what the definition of pornography is and nobody else does either. Pornography is somebody else's erotica that you don't like. People are interested in their own sexuality and they've always reflected it in their art. End of story.” - Erica Jong

    I don't know what the definition of leftism (rightism) is and nobody else does either. Leftism (rightism) is somebody else's politics that you don't like. People are interested in their own politics and they've always reflected it in their opinions. End of story.”

    Center is in the middle and/or the person running the camera.
     
  11. lrrs517

    lrrs517 Internet Investigative Officer

     
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  12. 600 dbl are

    600 dbl are Shake Zoola the mic rula

    13 indicted Russians who will never see the inside of a US court room at a cost of ~$1.9 per indictment. Seems like money well spent especially considering we already knew foreign governments try to influence our elections the same way we influence other countries.
     
  13. G 97

    G 97 Garth

    :crackup: This is what Trump Derangement Syndrome looks like. Keep spinning it to try and make it fit your false narrative.

    I understand that, If at first you don’t hit the intended target, you simply move the target to try and make it match the results.
     
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  14. 50Joe

    50Joe Registered User

    This will be fun. C'mon you bbs mental giants. Time to pile on me. Tell me where I stand politically etc. Get your labels out and throw them at me. Here we go:
    First President I voted for was Reagan. Voted for Clinton first election but not 2nd. Voted for Bush 1. Voted for Perot once. Voted for Obama 1st term, not second. Voted for Johnson. Can't recall if I voted for Bush 2 first term (I think I did) but did not 2nd term but also did not vote for Gore.

    Last local election I simply voted against the incumbent no matter what party they belonged to.

    I don't give a shit what your color, religion (including Muslim) or sexual preference is.

    Firm believer in the Constitution including 2nd Amendment. Especially concerned with free speech and issues effecting privacy.

    I do believe humans have an adverse effect on the planet climate. Investment in renewable energy sources is a win-win but fossil fuels have their need as well. Nuclear has a bad rap and believe that is still a viable energy source given our current available energy sources at this time.

    Why can't we have universal health care? British friends of mine claim their system works. Everyone pays 5% of their pay off the top regardless of what they make. Everyone gets equal care and if you need something, you get it. Sounds pretty good but this is second hand info from friends.

    If we can't afford to take care of our veterans than we can't afford to go to war.

    Our defense budget is easily 30% too high. We spend over 9x what Russia does and over 3x what China does.

    Infrastructure comes up every election cycle but nothing really gets done. We need another FDRish era.

    Hey, why not go back to the Republican Eisenhower era tax tables of the 1950's? Arguably the greatest growth era of the middle class. Yes, I know there were other contributing factors.

    Lastly, get off my lawn.
     
  15. kangasj

    kangasj Banned

    Accurized...:p
     
  16. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    Okay fellow mental giants, can we take this one subject at a time and be respectful?
     
  17. G 97

    G 97 Garth

    Both MSNBC and CNN have been awesome today. Trying to still maintain that Trump interfered by not explicitly confronting Russia to stop. :crackup: He didn’t do enough to discourage their behavior and actions, so by default he still colluded and interfered in the election. Similar to the nut jobs on here trying to spin it anyway they can to make it somehow still an issue. OMB in full force.

    Trump is Constitutionally permitted to fire the AG, so no obstruction withnthis action.
    Liberals are so Stoopid. But magically there are no liberals who post here. LOL.
     
  18. kangasj

    kangasj Banned

    Oh, so now you're tossing softballs? Here, I'll tell you....OMB! :crackup::crackup:
     
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  19. Britt

    Britt Well-Known Member

    Professional Opinion, you are a confused individual who really doesn't have a clearly defined set of ideas, or direction.

    I recommend you seek professional help, especially if there are dandelions growing, or a crabgrass infestation.
     
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  20. 50Joe

    50Joe Registered User

    C'mon. You can do better than that. Put some effort into it. I have confidence in your keyboard abilities.
     

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