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MotoGP | 2020 | Round 4 | Austria | Red Bull Ring | Aug 14-16

Discussion in 'General' started by BigBird, Aug 10, 2020.

  1. crashman

    crashman Grumpy old man

    I watched the video quite a few times and I am still not seeing how it was all Zarco's fault. The pass may have been a bit enthusiastic but only 1 rider could see the back tire of the other. It is conceivable that Frankie did not like getting motored and missed his timing for dropping back in to the draft. I know Rossi has been making alot of noise and pointing fingers but he is pretty biased when it comes to Zarco...
     
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  2. Quicktoy

    Quicktoy Is it Winter yet?

    Ok. So general consensus is from everyone except @motion that this was not Zarco’s fault. And I get what you’re saying to Motion. Just I see Frankie chose to engage when he should have rolled out and it bit him.
     
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  3. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    Well Zarco handed a Pit Lane start for his next race.



    ~sent from mobile
     
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  4. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

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  5. BigBird

    BigBird blah

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  6. Quicktoy

    Quicktoy Is it Winter yet?

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  7. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

    Because their non-parallel paths intersected.
     
  8. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    that's what causes any collision, intended or not. Still doesn't answer the question why Morbidelli was directly behind Zarco if he was on the wrong line, then they both are on the wrong line.

    And in insurance the driver in the rear gets more or almost all of the blame in a collision.
     
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  9. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

    Except... Frankie's line was good until Zarco banzaied past him on the wrong line, heading straight off the track, too fast. You can even see Frankie sit up a bit when he realizes that he's being sucked in.
     
  10. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    As Xaus said, it's basically done and they can not appeal, so it is what it is.

    I would love to see Zarco and MM93 on the Honda hitting each other. Well at least for a lap until MM93 clears off
     
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  11. dsapsis

    dsapsis El Jefe de los Monos

    think of the line as a vector. One is going one way, the other is 10 degrees to the left. Now, the first line initiated braking causing deflection to the right as well as slowing and indraft to the rear. I think the stewards got this one right.
     
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  12. motoracer1100

    motoracer1100 Well-Known Member

    If you watch FP2 you can clearly see the two separate lines of rubber laid down in that corner those two lines intersect in two places . One line turns in before the other ( inside line ) and has less of an arch to it ( Mobi’s line ) the wider and later turn in line ( Zarco line ) . There is no right or wrong line through that corner
     
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  13. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Unless you are Pol Espargaró or Jorge Lorenzo and believe that all the real estate from your position to the curb belongs to you.
     
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  14. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    Surprised Fabio is the slowest Yamaha.
     
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  15. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    Someone has to have an engine left for race day...
     
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  16. motoracer1100

    motoracer1100 Well-Known Member

    Brake issues ...
     
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  17. lopitt85

    lopitt85 Well-Known Member

    Look at the onboard from whoever was behind them. Franco was on the normal line and tight to the left. It really looks like he only drifted right when he saw Zarco drifting, in an attempt to avoid him
     
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  18. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    why would he avoid him...Zarco was already in front. Yamaha is at blame with their shotty brakes
     
  19. rice r0cket

    rice r0cket Well-Known Member

    Doesn't that mean Morbidelli should have been braking earlier?
     
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  20. nigel smith

    nigel smith Well-Known Member

    Where would Zarco have finished the corner if Morbidelli had not hit him?
     
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