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It really WAS all about the oil.....

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by Repo Man, Apr 23, 2003.

  1. Ex CCS Racer

    Ex CCS Racer Banned

    TOOL TOOL TOOL TOOL TOOL TOOL TOOL TOOL TOOL TOOL TOOL TOOL

    Yes Due is a shit stirrer, kinda like me. I'm sometimes a "tool" in the derogatory sense but I was in the military. I was considered a tool because of the nature of my job. As a vet I think it's okay. Kinda made me feel special. Having said that-piss off. If refering to your son or whoever as a tool pisses you off...tough shit. Get over it. That's just the way it is.:Poke:
     
  2. 191k

    191k Well-Known Member

    ...

    Do you race WERA events ex ccs?
     
  3. Ex CCS Racer

    Ex CCS Racer Banned

    I got your PM and have responded.
     
  4. Ex CCS Racer

    Ex CCS Racer Banned

    And again.....
     
  5. mtk

    mtk All-Pro Bike Crasher

    It's no fun if you two flame each other offline like that. Jeez.
     
  6. 191k

    191k Well-Known Member

    rofl
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Flies all green 'n buzzin

    Re: about the oil?

    I'd tell the mother of someone who lost their child in the war that he died trying to ensure other countries long term access to oil , countries that the USA depends on, for trade and investment to maintain the current standard of living, sure. What's wrong with that?

    You couldn't tell her he died destroying weapons of mass destruction, teaching terrorists a lesson, or (so far) eliminating a tyrannical regime in order to bring democracy to Iraqis and the middle east. Because none of that has happened yet.

    So while Due may be stirring it up to some degree, what the US plans to do in Iraq is a very legitimate question. Only those who are paranoid will interpret that as some sort of attack against the US.

    But your son IS a tool. Despite common vernacular, the term isn't necessarily a perjorative at all. If that's the only way you can comprehend it, it's simply because of your ignorance, so give it a rest.

    Speaking of ignorance, please don't expect us to believe you're studying constitutional law. Neither the US constitution nor the First Amendment gives anyone the right to post here. You can post because Mongo lets you.
     
  8. 191k

    191k Well-Known Member

    I'd tell the mother of someone who lost their child in the war that one achievement which resulted from her son's sacrifice was to ensure the people of Iraq's economy, (which is entirely oil) would be revived. Such a revival would not only help stabilize Iraq, but the Middle East as a whole. What's wrong with that?

    As far as weapons of mass destruction, neither you or I know what intelligence we had on WMD. We do know that it was enough to convince Congress to Authorize the use of force by a Bi-Partisen vote of 296 to 133.

    I am not paranoid about what we plan on doing in Iraq, We want to get the frick out of there as fast as we can, Thats what I want and it is my understanding that is the plan. If we don't, I won't be paranoid. I'll write my congressman and vote and tell anyone that listens that we need to get out of there as fast as possible.

    As far as insulting my 6'3" 195 lb E-4. Well, he'll be back in the States on leave in October and wer'e going to the GNF at RA. So I encourage you to say anything you want to him. He won't be hard to spot. lmao

    Speech over the internet is regulated by the government under the guidence of Constitutional Law period.

    Hey man, I'm past this crybaby stuff with you guys, I don't give a shit what you think. So give it a rest and find someone else to exhibit your childish behavior to.
     
  9. mtk

    mtk All-Pro Bike Crasher

    Uh, you'd better get a refund on that law class. You have NO "right" to post here. This BBS is the functional equivalent of Mongo's living room. He has the ONLY say in who has access, what can be posted, and everything else.

    Now I'm no lawyer, but I believe Robert is.
     
  10. Shyster d'Oil

    Shyster d'Oil Gerard Frommage

    Funny! 191k is the biggest baby here. If you don't agree with him you're a liberal, unpatriotic, stupid, illiterate (sp?:p ) or worse, Canadian.

    191k: Grow up! Why can't you be man enough to accept that other might not agree with you?

    I looked at this thread 3x's this am (albeit before my coffee!) and can't find a single insult to your son. Instead, it seems to be you who started with the insults just becase someone questioned what the war was about (funny, 'cause even you admit that you can't read our politicians minds).

    And just b/c you served in the military doesn't make you right or give you some moral advantage over those who haven't - vets can be just as smart or just as stupid as everybody else.

    Only thing that i agree with you on: Vets and our soldiers have been totally screwed: lousy pay (Clinton) and reduction in Vets benefits (Bush) are emplemmatic of how little our government really cares about our soldiers and vets. If that isn't part and parcel of being "used" as a "tool", I don't know what is. And many vets I know believe this too.

    And I'd be happy to say any of this to your face or your son's face. If you couldn't handle it -- too bad. What are you going to do? Hit me?:p

    Rodger
     
    Last edited: May 24, 2003
  11. 191k

    191k Well-Known Member

    I'm surrounded by morons

    Robert, you stoopit bitch!! All of my posts say you don't have a right to post here. Go back and look at 'em. And it isn't up to the moderater either.

    I Clearly, let me say that again for you moron, CLEARLY said you don't have the right to post anything you want on the internet.

    And neither does The moderator.

    This is not the Moderators liveing room by any stretch of the imagination.

    Statements written here or photograghs published on the internet are subject to government regulations and Constitutional Guidelines.

    I'll specifically address Roberts statement as you say he is a Lawyer. Robert said:
    (Speaking of ignorance, please don't expect us to believe you're studying constitutional law. Neither the US constitution nor the First Amendment gives anyone the right to post here. You can post because Mongo lets you.)

    For instance, lets say Robert owned a motorcycle shop called Hog Heaven. And I owned a competeing shop. Ad I wanted to get some of Roberts business. So I make the following post;

    "Hi folks, I sure wouldn't shop at Hog Heaven because Robert has been taking "Hog Heaven" to the extreme. Last year he was convicted of First degree beastiality for copulating with a neighbors Sow. I have proof as you will see in the enclosed picture. Yes, that is a pig humping Robert"

    Now there are many legal reasons why this kind of speech is regulated by the government.

    Posting the Picture of Robert getting BF'd by a pig would be a Felony violation of obscenity laws

    Then, Robert could take me to court and sue me for Libel. If he could prove that he was not convicted of 1st Degree Beastiality I would be found guilty of libel.

    Now the moderator could probably be found guilty for his role in allowing pornography to be posted on this site. Of course I don't know, he might be guilty of libel too if he allowed information he knew to be false to be posted on his site. I'm not sure what legal liability site owners have for content, but I'm sure there are laws..

    You do not have the Legal Right to post anything you want on the internet. Whata bunch of freaks!!!!!

    Listen y'all, I'm smarter than you, I bet I'm better looking than you, I'm sure I'm faster than you, and I can mess you up royal!!!!!! So quit screwin' wit me. I got a 55 gallon drum of Whoop-Ass that I'd love to poor all over your heads.

    And to you Roger, I would probably beat the crap out of you before you had a chance to insult him and then make you beg for forgiveness like the little bitch you are. lmao
     
  12. Shyster d'Oil

    Shyster d'Oil Gerard Frommage

    For a big baby you sure are over-caffinated!:D :p Or are you just drunk on a Saturday morning?

    I think you have issues that you need to talk to someone about. maybe some meds would help:

    "Listen y'all, I'm smarter than you, I bet I'm better looking than you, I'm sure I'm faster than you, and I can mess you up royal!!!!!! So quit screwin' wit me. I got a 55 gallon drum of Whoop-Ass that I'd love to poor all over your heads.

    And to you Roger, I would probably beat the crap out of you before you had a chance to insult him and then make you beg for forgiveness like the little bitch you are. lmao"

    Too funny. what is the insult clown? Can you come up with a lucid moment to ID just one? I doubt it.:moon:

    And I'm still waitning for a response to this bit of genius:

    quote:
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    Originally posted by 191k
    Speech over the internet is regulated by the government under the guidence of Constitutional Law period.

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    Its "law class" refund time pal.:moon:

    Rodger

    Its easier to stir when there's alcohol involved!:D
     
  13. 191k

    191k Well-Known Member

    Liberals hate Facts; Clearly Liberals dream of a Utopian society. Conservitives on the other hand are more pragmatic. In other words they see things how they really are, not how they might be.

    And there is nothing wrong with being a dreamer. But the problem with the Far-Left wing of Liberals is they whine, blame and complain so much, that nobody listens to them any more.

    All three branches of our Government are controlled by folks with Conservitive ideology. The liberals are screwed, Thats why they are being so pissy.

    I said and you challenged me saying; "Its 'law class' refund time pal."

    Originally posted by 191k
    "Speech over the internet is regulated by the government under the guidence of Constitutional Law period."

    The Attachment is a portion of my transcipts that show my "A" in Constitutional Law.

    I say it's kiss my ass time pal!

    I say again, ALL types of speech in this country, are subject to, and regulated by the Government of The United States.

    I would think that you agree that what is written here is speech. God I hope so!

    The types of speech covered are; Written, Spoken, Broadcast and Symbolic. (Burning a Flag; the Supreme Court ruled it was protected speech)

    You may not write speak or broadcast anything that you choose.

    For example;
    Libel - is a published or broadcast false and defamatory statement which damages the reputation of an individual.

    Slander - Is a spoken defamation.

    Defamation- Sometimes called "defamation of character", is spoken or written words that falsely and negatively reflect on a living person's reputation. If a person or the news media says or writes something about you that is understood to lower your reputation, or that keeps people from associating with you, defamation has occurred. Slander and libel are two forms of defamation.

    Insults- are generally not considered demamation,slander or libel. Usually they are seen as outbursts of emotion, with no real substance, except to show intense dislike.

    Pornography- The Supreme Court has ruled that obscene material is not protected free speech.

    Treason- A breach of allegiance to one's government; attempting by overt acts (speech is an overt act) to betray the state into the hands of a foreign power. Treason consists of two elements: adherence to the enemy, and rendering him aid and comfort. In other words you can't promote the overthrow of the government in this or any forum.

    Is that good enough. Ask any Lawyer if there is one thing incorrect of what I have written.

    I reiterate;

    Liberals hate Facts; Clearly Liberals dream of a Utopian society. Conservitives on the other hand are more pragmatic. In other words they see things how they really are, not how they might be.

    And there is nothing wrong with being a dreamer. But the problem with the Far-Left wing of Liberals is they whine, blame and complain so much, that nobody listens to them any more.

    All three branches of our Government are controled by folks with Conservitive ideology. The liberals are screwed, Thats why they are being so pissy.
     
    Last edited: May 24, 2003
  14. dtalbott

    dtalbott Driving somewhere, hauling something.

    "There is no right; there is only power."

    You can say anything you want, AS LONG AS YOU ARE WILLING TO PAY THE PRICE, whether that means a fine, going to jail, or a punch in the nose.
     
  15. 191k

    191k Well-Known Member

    You got that right! (correct)

    I've gone to jail for punchin'a few noses! It's just simple assault, a class C misdemeaner in Missouri.

    Point well taken, say what you will but be willin' to take the heat!

    And in America, you say the wrong thing to the wrong person and you end up on the wrong side of the dirt.

    lmao
     
  16. Johnny B

    Johnny B Cone Rights Activist

    Re: I'm surrounded by morons

    Sure as shit is. Mongo can boot your sorry ass any time he wants. He just happens to be the most patient moderator I've ever encountered, so he doesn't boot people. I've seen plenty of people get thrown out of other lists.[​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Might be a misdemeaner and all, but if you're going to law school, don't they take shit like that real serious? I knew a table dancer in Cocoa Beach that got forced out of law school because of her night job.
    Rodger? Input on this?
     
  17. Johnny B

    Johnny B Cone Rights Activist

    Oh, And BTW......

    [​IMG]

    Enjoy! [​IMG]
     
  18. 191k

    191k Well-Known Member

    If you would have actually read the post.... At that time I had actually thought that these people representative of the opinion of the whole of the WERA organization. I am new here and should have realized that there are a few troublemakers in every crowd. And that is what I have been told by your bretheran.

    As far as my statement that this isn't the Moderators living room, this was meant to convey that things said in the moderaters living room are private and things said on forums such as this are public and subject to the Laws I described in my post.

    This whole freedom of speech thing got started be me saying that "due north" does not enjoy our first Amendment right to Freedom of Speech. That's all. And you people get wacky! What is it about facts that drives you to the verge of an anarchy. It appears the only thing that gets your interest is talking about punching someone in the nose.

    As far as punching people in the nose and going to Law school there are plenty of infractions and misdemeaners that are incurred by Law Students. Usually DWI.

    Now in the application process you use a service called the 'Law School Data Assembly Service' (LSDAS) LSDAS prepares and provides a report for each law school to which you apply. A Criminal records check is performed at this time and as such is used in the determination on whether the University accepts your application or not.

    So it matters, but like anything, it's part of the whole package and if you have been in a few fights or had other misdemeaner incidents, depending on the school you should be alright. But more than one DWI or a pattern of Lawlessness of course would probably prevent you from being admitted to any Law school.

    Now I think that is a civil way to put this matter to rest. I have explained my position. It is mine, I am entitled to it, and I will not participate in any more of these sophmoric discussions.
     
  19. RacerTech

    RacerTech Well-Known Member

    Then, unfortunatly, you have come to the wrong place. This isn't a bastion of wisdom, by any measure.

    - RT
     
  20. Due North

    Due North Source of Insanity

    What's a misdemeaner ?? No spelling in Missouri? Where do you prosecute your misdemeaners? No wonder your definitions are wrong. You couldn't find anything in the dictionary with your spelling. I won't go any further in a discussion of semantics with someone who can't spell.


    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

    I betting you are!!! :D
     

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