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How to save the AMA...

Discussion in 'General' started by BiZ, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. BiZ

    BiZ a matter of weight ratios

    Make the premier big bike and medium (?) sized bike classes rule structure equal in the AMA, WERA, CCS, and every other racing club/organization. Then, when the AMA rolls into town, make it a joint event, so that you get AMA points, plus points in the clubs equivalent class that operate in that area. Example, you finish 10th overall, out of 30 entries. You get 10th place ama points, but because you finished 1st out of the club guys, you get 1st place club points.

    Allow the "club" guys to use their own tires.

    Club guys can participate in no more than X number of AMA events, before becoming full time AMA guys and having to use the spec tire.

    Discuss.
     
  2. metricdevilmoto

    metricdevilmoto Just forking around

    The Dunlop deal is worth more to AMA Pro than a few entry fees are.

    What Dunlop is paying for is exclusivity.
     
  3. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

    Nope. Make the rules the same as BSB, WSBK (soon to be evo class), etc and call it what it is, a national feeder series to the world championship.
     
  4. Suburbanrancher

    Suburbanrancher Chillzilla

    Televise every race, particularly the penultimate round. That'll probably keep the sponsors happy - just sayin'.
     
  5. The Great One

    The Great One Well-Known Member

    Getting DMG to take their heads out of their asses would be a start.
     
  6. zippytech

    zippytech Running On Pumpedupness!!

    Having 12 or 15 race weekends might get someone to actually put some time into the series.

    With a 5 or 6 race series, it's not worth anyone's time to race it.
     
  7. Dave K

    Dave K DaveK über alles!

    Write the rule book for 2013 ~ 2017 about 10 months ago.
    Hire someone to be in charge who can be in charge.
    Hire someone (or a company) to be out there selling the series to sponsors (big and small).
    Get the TV shit set.
    Pay the top teams in class to show up (top finishers in class back to x). Quit looking at the teams as sources of income.
    Sell the personalities of the riders. WWE, baby!
    You negotiated some f@cked up deals with dunlop, sunoco and some other sponsors that f@cked the teams and gave up their prime advertizing spaces, fix this! Or pay the teams for the space.
    Gather up what is left of the teams in daytona for few days and ask them what they need.
    Fix those jumped start rules.
    Kiss WERA's ass for the years of trying to f@ck them and work with them as a feeder series to the bigs.
    Lower the cost of a race for the promoters and tracks. Charging a shit ton isn't going to make you money if no one is buying.

    Put on a "bike week" program at some of the tracks. Run WERA the weekend before your event, maybe a trackday during the week and promote this like it was the next coming of jah-sus.

    Quit nickle and diming the teams, the riders and the promoters!
     
  8. A.R.K.

    A.R.K. Well-Known Member

    It didn't take much to prep the bike from WERA to AMA SS. Belly pan plugs, fuel map, re-safety wire to remove clips, and add a shark fin. Think that was it.
     
  9. Dave K

    Dave K DaveK über alles!

    F@ck that shit! They did that in the past (250s, 883s, superteams, botts, superbike, superstock, supersport, 125s) and it was boring as watching slugs f@ck. The new fan had no one idea what the various classes were, it was too much racing and by the time it was over, a lot of the fans just wanted to leave.

    It was like seeing some shitty 70s dinosaur arena rock band who play for 5 hours. You want to leave the fans wanting more, not praying that the vocalist would fall over and break his hip so they can leave.
     
  10. backcountryme

    backcountryme Word to your mother.

    Get rid of electronics. If it didn't come from the factory, you can't use it.
     
  11. Suburbanrancher

    Suburbanrancher Chillzilla

    Give this man a series!
     
  12. Chip

    Chip Registered

    The problem is not in the technical rules or the operations....its in the business.

    The solution will not be easy or painless.
     
  13. Tdub

    Tdub Say what???

    That might have been pretty embarrassing for the AMA back in 2011 as there were a few kids in WERA matching or besting the AMA DSB times (with "their own" tires and fuel)...just saying.
     
  14. G 97

    G 97 Garth

    Horse, death, beating
     
  15. LukeLucky

    LukeLucky Well-Known Member

    That.

    Still no audience. The racing isn't even a small part of the problem. The public is not interested.
     
  16. Dave K

    Dave K DaveK über alles!

    Horseshit! You'll never get Bon Jovi final tour numbers but you can get some good numbers at the races.

    Build a good show, promote it and you'll have the rubes lining up to give you their 20 bucks.
     
  17. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

    I blame Obama
     
  18. Mr Sunshine

    Mr Sunshine Banned

    I think you read this wrong. He wasn't saying 12-15 races a weekend. He was saying 12-15 weekends instead of the 5-6 that is there now.
     
  19. mike w

    mike w Knarf's buddy

    I blame Roger E and Colin F.I said at the time it would take a very long time to undo the damage they did
     
  20. worthless

    worthless Well-Known Member

    I can't keep up. Is M1 still in the game? Last I remember, they were bailing on 2013 and were going to focus on 2014.
     

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