What are the big drawbacks on these ('11-current models) on the track? I know they turn a little slow so people raise them up, but what is another big drawback? All things being equal (rider, rules etc..) can these be competitive? Thanks for the any info.
I'd say the 600 might be a little down on top end compared to an R6, although it does have a healthier midrange.
Midrange midrange and midrange, "tuned right by a good dyno tuner" they spin up the rpms with the best of the pack. On MR12 it's a totally different motor. Good suspension under them setup by a professional and you can put it anywhere you want to on track. Very stable bikes set right. I like my 600 so far and have only ridden it at one race weekend this year. I raced an A class liter bike the past 3 solid years. Still re-learning the 600. And I like the 11-17 current 600/750 looks and plus looks don't make or break a race bike imo.
It's a broadsword. Set up right, crazy stable and super predictable. Does most things very good. Does almost nothing exceptional. The R6 does more things exceptionally and a few things worse.
Who are you - Lord Aragon? Yes, very predictable, solid chassis. Easy to go quick on out of the gate. If it's a broadsword, an R6 is a ninja blade (technical term) and a modern 1000 is an anvil.
The whole broadsword thing was supposed to tie into the R6 being a scalpel, Gandalf. Sitting in an airport waiting to board a flight that's been delayed twice and I've got a pile of work waiting for me back at the shop. My train of thought is at the boarding station.
Aren't R6 rear shocks hard to get 100% right and the bike will eat tires like a fat kid eats donuts if you miss it?
Usually you can count on 98.4% of the 600 paddock having an R6, so the numbers are pretty well known.
Smaller margin of error on the R6. Sone suspension brands are more setup intensive than others which makes that margin even smaller.
Yeah, all I know is talking to some people running Ohlins. I went a little too general in my question I guess.