El Paso Shooting

In not so many words, yes. G97 and I traded posts above to counter what Snack was saying.

 

I agree but will also add I think many people no matter what your beliefs are, are stymied by the Dayton killings. That dude was with his sister earlier, leaves her, comes back and then kills her along with others. That's on a fucked up scale greater than most. Also, those killed were all over the map age and race wise. No good way to frame it other than 1000% psycho crazy.

 

And in both cases several liberal democrat politicians and liberal leading media outlets have framed it as Trumps rhetoric being solely responsible for both tragedies and some are outright stating he is personally responsible.

How soon they forget when Hillary stated, what difference does it make. But in her case she was responsible for the Benghazi debacle.

 

No. It has nothing to do with that and EVERYTHING to do with him targeting Mexicans. He was letting black people and white people out the doors and shooting Mexican's instead. The media is going to hold on to him being motivated by Trump's immigration fight like a pitbull on a t-bone.

 

I DGAF what the media has to say.

 

Well of course because you are smart and can see through it all. Sadly the brain dead liberal masses lap it up like mothers milk. It’s always interesting to see all the stooped that comes out on Facebook from otherwise productive people when things like this transpire. They’ve swallowed it hook line and sinker.

 

Valid points. Let me ask you this, do you think it would get the same air time it's getting now if the shooter had been a Trump supporter instead of a E. Warren?


The problem is, in the media there is no standard to when talking about a persons motives. When it's a person that shows even the slightest conservative viewpoint, the left fundraises form it and the media use it to paint their narrative at the moment. El Paso. If the person shares leftist views then you hear the left, as many have been saying yesterday and today that "politics don't matter". Well , which is it? Either they do or don't.

I'm from the standpoint that politics only matter if that's the reason for the shooting. The congressional shooting and the attempted bombing of an ICE facility for recent events.

What we see are two different ways the media cover these crimes. El Paso , the shooter is a White Nationalist and everyone in the media and every 2020 Dem is trying to tie it to Trump. In the case of the ICE facility incident and the congressional shooting, they didn't tie it to AOC or Bernie. The bias is in clear view and it's sickening.

Should any of those events be tied to the politicians, no, absolutely not. Unless a politician is directly telling people to go do these things(M. Waters) then they haven't the least bit of responsibility in those crimes.

Trump has never called for or told anyone to go a kill. Never. Does he use language that some don't like. Sure. But words don't kill. Likewise, I haven't heard AOC call for ICE agents to be killed so we shouldn't hold her responsible for some nut job that tried to blow up the place. I think it's disgusting and void of any knowledge when she calls ICE facilities "concentration camps" but she bears no responsibility for that nut job.

We have a problem than transcends politics, that is very clear and sadly, only some on one side seem to want to talk about it. The other wants to paint everyone that may possibly share one view as one of these killers as an accomplice to their crime. How is it that we are going to have any sort of progress on this issue when one side says this and this is what is being pumped 24/7 through MSM?

 

You honestly dont believe bullying isnt part of the reason at the very least? Just cause other people go through it fine doesnt mean everyone will.

 

You do have wonderful hair. I didn't read the rest.

 

Why? Because you say so?
Please.

 

Just heard the FBI has 'discovered' the Ohio shooter may be associated with a violent ideology, but they won't elaborate. I think you spell it Antifa, Mr FBI agent I also heard one debating if the El Paso POS wrote the manifesto. The crazies, politicians and tin foil folks are on a bender over these.

RIP to the victims and condolences to the friends and families. Lastly heal fast and well to anyone wounded.

 

Indeed and it's a worthwhile conversation to have. Our society is rotting and those that have read history are watching in real time it repeat itself in many ways. We have a culture problem and law and order problem to start. We're losing our culture to politics and politics is only relevant if you have culture.

 

If he's associated with ANTIFA it was only a matter of time. The President is right to want to label them a terrorist organization.

I find it very odd that his sister was killed and I can't get past that. We've seen people do crazy things before because they had a family disagreement. Sad for all those involved and kudos to the cops in Dayton. If the leftist are paying attention. THAT is what real heroes look like.

 

Everything I saw he was WAY out there. Sad he would kill her but to go nuts on a lot of random strangers says it all, not any sanity left. The POS in Tx drove 11 hours from one thing I heard to kill people. Some messed up folks.