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Covid19 PSA

Discussion in 'General' started by R Acree, Mar 10, 2020.

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  1. G 97

    G 97 Garth

    Well they got notified and now got told to stand by. Don't know what else to tell you.
     
  2. L8RSK8R

    L8RSK8R Well-Known Member

    Italy has the oldest population in the world...
    And erryone smokes.
     
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  3. Newsshooter

    Newsshooter Well-Known Member

    Or a bar of soap and water that is far more effective. Hand sanitizer doesn't kill much but the alcohol dries out your skin and helps keep the virus/bacteria from sticking to it.
     
  4. DWhyte91

    DWhyte91 Well-Known Member

    At work I sometimes don’t have access to a washroom and many times there’s no GD soap. I use industrial hand wipes for the grime and hand sanitizer. I always wash before eating though.

    I was going to use methyl hydrate if I run out of the store bought hand sanitizer.
     
  5. Lawn Dart

    Lawn Dart Difficult. With a big D.

    Make your own hand sanitizer at home with aloe gel and alcohol.
     
  6. Yzasserina

    Yzasserina sound it out

    A lot of testing early on relative to the US.
     
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  7. David-imoddavid

    David-imoddavid Well-Known Member

    100 proof liquor is only 50% alcohol. From what I've read lately 70% alcohol is needed to kill this bug.
    That leaves 151 proof rum @ 75% alcohol or straight grain @ 190 proof - 95% alcohol
     
  8. 418

    418 Expert #59


    Denatured alcohol FTMFW.

    You can drink it too. If you're brave/desperate enough.
     
  9. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner


    I know right?

    If there's a hurricane off shore, you don't board up your house's windows and go inland before it gets there. You wait until waves are smashing against your front door and your roof has blown off and THEN you start getting ready to pack and maybe nail up some plywood over the windows.
     
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  10. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    And you just fell into the sarchasm.
     
  11. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

    FYI, if I remember reading correctly, hydrogen peroxide can also be used to sanitize as well.







    Man, this is just awful :(

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/corona...na-doctors-prepare-to-make-harrowing-choices/
    It's literally turning into what Wuhan was a few weeks ago
     
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2020
  12. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

    I just hate seeing this news from Italy. I spend so much time in northern Italy. I'm always passing thru Bergamo on the way to the Dolomites. I have a strong connection there and it is really sad :( All of Italy is really one happy family. I can't imagine how hard it is for them.
     
  13. wiggeywackyo

    wiggeywackyo Well-Known Member

    A good explanation for those that don't understand why it's worse than the flu:

    This is from an immunologist at Johns Hopkins University:

    “Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal
    flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share
    this to others who don’t understand...

    It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.

    Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up
    the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that
    your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year...
    you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a
    flu shot.

    Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in
    animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these
    viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1)
    (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal
    viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then
    it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity..
    the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the
    human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

    Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to
    human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a
    human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to
    human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending
    on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious,
    or how deadly it’s gonna be..

    H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as
    the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host
    differently, too.

    Fast forward.

    Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for
    nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan
    China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to
    people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is
    the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the
    ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability,
    “slippery”

    This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we
    would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a
    rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors
    have no known medicines for it.

    And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus,
    changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to
    human lungs..

    That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any
    other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung
    eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains
    to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to
    develop a vaccine.

    We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that
    fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past
    pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in
    1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

    Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till
    the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better
    now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...

    And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder...
    but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who
    is to say, what it will do next.
     
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  14. wiggeywackyo

    wiggeywackyo Well-Known Member

    Perhaps it's a function of number of beds and ventilators available as well as early action on isolation??
     
  15. SGVRider

    SGVRider Well-Known Member

    Good. I'm hoping that something positive may come of this. Stopping the transfer of wealth from ourselves to our enemy would be a plus.
     
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  16. SGVRider

    SGVRider Well-Known Member

    No dummy. Don't you listen to the resident epidemiologists and statisticians here? This is just a minor case of the flu and we should just continue business as usual and all will be A-okay. Ventilators and hospital beds grow on trees, we can easily go get more for any minor uptick in need.
     
  17. wiggeywackyo

    wiggeywackyo Well-Known Member

    :crackup:
     
  18. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

    All of California just ordered to stay at home.
     
  19. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

  20. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck


    Which makes me wonder why we're not seeing youtube videos everywhere of Italian grandmothers being left in the hallway to die. I keep hearing that it's happening, but I don't actually SEE any evidence.

    Strange, that.

    Same with national guardsmen getting called up... it's always something that someone's buddy's friend's cousin's ex-girlfriend overheard at the nail salon. No actual evidence.

    Strange, that.

    Now that the global economy has suffered damage that will take YEARS to recover from, there's a simple drug that we have shitloads of on hand that miraculously cures it.

    Strange, that.


    ^^^Toe kicked it out of the park^^^
     
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