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AHRMA Next Gen 2

Discussion in 'WERA Vintage' started by yamatr3, Oct 21, 2017.

  1. VFR#52

    VFR#52 Well-Known Member

    No look at forks. Its a 600.
    But then again who cares.
    Still has to be ridden fast to beat guys in class.
    Those bike are not as good as people say they are.
    A ZX6R is lighter, faster and handles better.
    Race against them all.
    F3s we have in class are pretty good bikes and those bikes and riders would have something to say about who is going to win. Lol
    But lets add GSXR 600 carbs to V7MW.
    We need more guys on grid.
    I can show you vids of me racing against Nicky Haydens old 97 at CMRA races in 2011.
    And my bike had a ported head and stock cams in it at that time.
    So im not worried they going to take over class.

    Steven Isenhower 52
     
  2. TZRusty

    TZRusty Well-Known Member

    Add a 94 YZF750 to the list of new entries.
     
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  3. VFR#52

    VFR#52 Well-Known Member

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10203397551615212&id=1704597750
    Watch this vid.
    From 2011 and that bike is the Real Nicky Hayden Hyper Cycle bike.
    Raced it all yr.
    Results didnt work out in my favor as vid will show.
    Lost out in 2 classes cause of this race.
    But thats a full on sorted bike with a fresh motor against my 300$ wonder i raced.
    Normons bike is way faster and he rides crap out of his F3 as do others in class.
    So no im not worried and think they would add to grid.

    Steven Isenhower #52
     
  4. V5 Racer

    V5 Racer Yo!

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  5. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    If I do that then every current 600 in that class would be outdated. Not to mention this is the same old argument about how there are tons of them out there just waiting to go racing - but only one or two show up...
     
  6. VFR#52

    VFR#52 Well-Known Member

    A carb Shrad 600 is not faster than the bikes in class now.
    Just watch my vid.
    And that is the same bike Nicky beat Miguel on back in 97 in 600 AMA races.
    But not my call im just trying to help get more guys on grid.
    You know me always wanting the best for me.
    Bahhhahhhahh.

    Steven Isenhower #52
     
  7. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I don't need to watch your video, I saw all of these bikes in person when they were new. I owned one and put a fast rider on it, I know what they'll do and they'll decimate the F3's without blinking - just as they did when new.
     
  8. VFR#52

    VFR#52 Well-Known Member

    Wow. Ok.
    You are right.

    Steven Isenhower #52
     
  9. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    What? I wasn't there? I didn't run 98/99 Kawis against fast riders on GSXR600's? I didn't see that there wasn't a competitive F3 or pre 98 bike out there? I guess I could be hallucinating all those things but I really don't think so...

    I'm not concerned with you racing in 2011. I do know how fast Brian was on my bikes. I know how fast Mark Junge was, how fast Josh Hayes was, how fast Ben Spies was. I know how fast the proper tuners (I wasn't one) could make the GSXR's even in SS trim for the Cup finals and for our rules the rest of the year.

    Not to mention I can't see the video...
     
  10. VFR#52

    VFR#52 Well-Known Member

    Well thanks for history lesson sir.
    But as i was racing a few you mentioned here and actually beat them a time or 2.
    I based that on my recommendation.
    And.
    I do agree about the F3s being no where.
    But guess i should remind you who was paying money back then in those classes.
    Which is why you went to the Suzuki in 1st place.
    And i did say CARB model.
    Hell a ZX6R would smoke a 600 Shrad that was legal.
    Now on to the F3s we run now.
    Hell me and JT are only bikes on grid without HRC parts in motor or on bike.
    Most are EX AMA bikes with full on super bike motors.
    Now i never raced Ben or Yunge.
    But ive raced others you mentioned.
    And let's be real here.
    Who would buy a bike and take the money and time to build a rulebook killer bike?
    We race what we can afford or purchase cheap.
    But it still has to be ridden fast to win.
    But as one who does put a wheel in class and who would be racing against these so called class killer id still say let the carb models in.
    But you do what you think is best.
    I was and have always just tried to grow vintage class.
    Whats worse that could happen?
    Hammonds not show up and no one would be on grid in V7?
    Take care and best of luck at GNF.
    See you next yr.

    Steven Isenhower #52
     
  11. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Worst that could happen is we lose the few people we have running the class. Worst that could happen is that Vintage turnouts drop enough the boss has me stop running them. Adding bikes that would dominate the current machinery has never helped a class yet that I remember.
     
  12. VFR#52

    VFR#52 Well-Known Member

  13. VFR#52

    VFR#52 Well-Known Member

    I have no words.
    But as a person who has raced a 600 until 99 i do think i know what my completion was and on what bikes paid money back then.
    Remember thats why we bought new bikes every 2 yrs back then.
    But i only made a recommendation to help get more bikes in grid.
    I should call Ben up and see if he will ride my F3 to help him get back in shape for coming yr.
    I sure he would jump at chance to race in vintage class.
    Maybe i can find me someone to put in my bike thats not so old.
    I will get back to you on that one.
    Have a great day.

    Steven Isenhower #52
     
  14. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I have no clue what you're responding to but it's in your head and not the words I used.
     
  15. V5 Racer

    V5 Racer Yo!

    The person listing the bike says it's a 750

    <edit> I asked for the VIN and it's already sold.
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2017
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  16. VFR#52

    VFR#52 Well-Known Member

    Your out of touch sir.
    Vintage guys want more bikes to race with.
    You seem to not want to change anything to help solve it.
    When a person or me brings up a way to get more on grid you shoot it down.
    Then claim its going to benifit me in some way.
    Ive shown why things are not working now.
    Yet you say that it will hurt class when we offer a solution.
    Yet ARHMA is growing and has more restrictions in the late model classes they run.
    Again im guy who would be racing agaisnt them.
    Same as points deal.
    Its me who would suffer if what you say is case.
    Yet im one trying to grow class.
    I just dont get it.
    You act as if you putting a tire on grid and racing me and the rest.
    I mean the whole 4 or 5 guys that make up V7 is just a huge turn out.
    If Hammonds dont show up you wont have anyone on grid.
    I know you have a hard on for me.
    That obvious to all to see.
    Yet im still here wanting to race and grow class cause i want to see it grow.
    I want our bikes to have value to others.
    I want to see 15 riders at GNF racing for the National title.
    You make the rules and you ask for suggestions.
    I guess i need to get someone else to make them so that you would listen and have this class grow.
    I just dont see why you wont take a vote with guys who do pay to race.
    Let them have a say.
    Then we have no one to blame if what you say happens.
    I dont see these Carb models dominating.
    Racing brings challenges.
    Is that not what you keep saying?
    You dont want to sell points?
    Yet you are doing that very thing.
    A win is earned on track.
    Always wi
     
  17. VFR#52

    VFR#52 Well-Known Member

    Sweet. V8 bike it is.
    I know where a 600 motor is.
    Lol.
    But that would be a waste of money as of today.

    Steven Isenhower #52
     
  18. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    And yet again - I am not reading all of that shit, learn to use a spacebar instead of hitting enter. It's not rocket science.

    I did catch the selling points thing - of course we sell points, that's kind of our entire business along with the track time. What I don't want to do is sell championships and you keep posting things that will help you get a championship without being the fastest rider. It's not that hard to figure out. You don't want to race, you want to buy championships. If you wanted to race you'd be at the GNF, but you won't because you have no chance - well of course you don't. You pull in when you're not winning you don't show when you're out of the running. But you're the fast guys who knows all about Vintage racing?

    I'm truly tired of this.
     
  19. V5 Racer

    V5 Racer Yo!

    Just as well, I'm a Yamaha guy now anyway :D
     
  20. VFR#52

    VFR#52 Well-Known Member

    Bahhhahhhhahha.
    Just goes to show that you still dont have a clue what ive said or proposed.
    And you dont know how the points work in order to win a chapionship.
    You are correct i do pull in when im not winning.
    Its a waste of time cause the way points are counted.
    2nd is same as last.
    And what reason would i have to show up at GNF for?
    No points from Nola.
    I can race Cmra this weekend if i want.
    But that aside im still only one trying to grow grids.
    See you next yr.

    Steven Isenhower #52
     

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