The Ben. Again.

Ben should have just said, "teams are leaving, mofo's gonna be fighting over fewer seats, I'm out". Then we wouldn't have to litigate over "factories" all winter.

 

2018, you're right
IT’S OFFICIAL: TEAM HRC TO RETURN TO THE SUZUKA 8 HOURS

 

bring back tire wars

 

Honda Asia-Dream Racing has their hands in multiple disciplines. Most recently at the 8 Hours of Sepang. Can't speak of any other Honda factory endeavors.
https://www.hondanews.asia/corporate/detail-1654/

 

We need the next generation of Rough Ryder's buying shiny new streetbikes.

 

Sad but true.

 

well, its ruff ryders, since you're into the slightest details

 

On the bright side it makes winter go by quicker.

 

Old video but

 

You got me. This whole discussion just comes down to spelling really.

Spies said the factories were pulling out and MA is going to go under....but that was just a misspelling of "I heard some shit".

 

Yeah, but words have meaning and if Yamaha and Suzuki have official teams, they have not left the series. Level of support is an entirely different issue.

 

Dude…

 

Dude. Dude?
That was tongue in cheek. I've quoted spies enough in this thread to know what he said

But for the fun of it, here's another Spies quote from the same time as the rest of his prognostications.


"But again for me, looking back when I’m not a spokesperson for anybody, I know for sure MotoAmerica is losing seven figures a year and there’s no way they’ll keep doing it no matter what licensing rights"
-Ben Spies

 

Well shit, he was spot on about the factory's.. R.I.P M.A

 

It wouldn’t exactly shock me if they actually were losing that amount.

 

All that, yet ...

Jonathan Rea on SPOTY snub: “Motorcycle racing hasn’t been embraced”

https://www.visordown.com/news/raci...snub-“motorcycle-racing-hasn’t-been-embraced”

 

Oh, really, it's tongue-in-cheek when you change what he said that you want others to be literal about it? Nice try.

As for your second quote, what about it? I don't see a date in it. Do you?

 

What I have said has been constant.

He said multiple factories would be pulling out in 2020. That did not happen. You can interpret whatever the heck you want, but that's fact.

I was assuming you were smart enough to separate the literal discussion of what he said from a hyperbolic comment not related to what we have been discussing. I was wrong. You caught the tater.

If you want to discuss what he said on the financials, go for it. You're right he gave no time table on calling it unsustainable. Time will have to tell, but the numbers guy at MA publicly retorted him after his comments, so there's that.

 

Right, because if they were hemorrhaging money, they would have confirmed it. Sure. That's how the world works.

I believe someone also publicly said that there was no truth to factory teams leaving.