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MotoGP | Brno | Czech Republic | Aug 6, 2017

Discussion in 'General' started by BigBird, Jul 31, 2017.

  1. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Yeah, but of all the riders it could have happened to, you knew it was going to be him or Alvaro.
     
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  2. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

    Can they change more than once? If it had started pouring rain with 10 laps left, would they have to pit again or would the race be called? I didn't think a wet wet race could be called for rain.
     
  3. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Yes. But every time you change, the tires have to be different (wet vs. slicks)
     
  4. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    Valid point:crackup:
     
  5. TXFZ1

    TXFZ1 Well-Known Member

    Wonder why didn't Pedrosi didn't have the same strategy? IIRC, he came in after Marquez.
     
  6. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Marquez picked the wrong with tire. He didn't come in because he planned it but because he had to. His genius was in not forcing the issue.
     
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  7. TXFZ1

    TXFZ1 Well-Known Member

    I thought it was planned, as in the crew knew he would be coming in quickly. Otherwise, why not just start on slicks and give away his secret strategy. I don't watch the post race interviews, did he admit to the wrong choice? Rossi always forced the issue with a wet race, I agree he has never learned.

    Ducati is the one that screwed the pooch, IMO. Full rains ... WTF, JLo.

    Edit: couldn't change to slicks as the bike was setup for wets. I still think it was planned. Either way brillant strategy or recovery.
     
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  8. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    He said himself that the soft tire that he chose at the last moment was the wrong one. He was getting no traction under acceleration.
     
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  9. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

    But I bet this rationale in choosing the soft tire was that he'd be able to use it to blast away from the guys on the hard and build enough of a gap that switching to slicks early wouldn't hurt him.
     
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  10. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

    he said that he did not feel well with the medium at the sighting lap and he asked his team to change to soft.
     
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  11. flyboy

    flyboy Well-Known Member

    Why?? It's the same for everyone.

    I'm a Rossi fan, but holy shit...he and Yamaha are terrible when it come to decision making. Seems pretty simple to me...once MM pitted he needed to come in. I seriously don't know how they get it so wrong every time. It's a shame too...I think it would have been a good race.
     
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  12. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    Maybe for 2-4th. I don't think anyone had anything for Marquez. Especially going race distance on the medium slicks.
     
  13. TXFZ1

    TXFZ1 Well-Known Member

    Could it be he had to wait for Vinales to pit first? I did not see any factory team pit on the same lap. Rossi and Dovi still waited an extra lap before coming in to change bikes.
     
  14. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Folger.
     
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  15. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    He should have pitted a lap before Vinales. Or two. Or four.

    But he didn't. And the result is the result.

    I'm sure knowing what he knows now running a warmup lap with a hand up and making a pit start from his dry bike would have been the smartest way to go.
     
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  16. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    10th place and 35 seconds back. He may have rolled off some fast laps at the end of the race but he was nowhere near contention.
     
  17. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    Nope. Not the team's fault. Every single time they ever told him to swap bikes he has ignored them. Without fail. The only time I can remember him NOT ignoring his pit board was the mandatory tire change. And that was not weather issue it was track surface. (Philip Island I believe.)

    It is most definitely not the team's fault. It's all Rossi.
     
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  18. aaronson

    aaronson Well-Known Member

    Lorenzo the one lap wonder
     
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  19. Potts N Pans

    Potts N Pans Well-Known Member

    Didn't Hayden and Stoner run wets at Donnigton in 2009 thinking it was going to rain...and it never rained enough for the wets to work. Sucks when a gamble doesnt work out.

    Yep...it was the race Dovi won and CE/RDP were close behind.
     
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  20. TX Joose

    TX Joose Well-Known Member

    They said he lost 15 seconds in the pits because his bike wasn't ready. I wonder where that would have put him if they had it together
     

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