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Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by ryoung57, Dec 4, 2016.

  1. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    It's not weakness. It's acknowledging history, it's respecting a tribe and their history, it's understanding that the history of your tribe (in this case the Army and those giving the orders) wasn't good. Nothing weak about it. It's different than reparations or the like. It's giving respect to people not a handout. Nothing weak in admitting your predecessors did wrong.
     
  2. crashman

    crashman Grumpy old man

    I agree that there is nothing weak about admitting that people before you did wrong. I don't think there would be anything wrong with pledging to do everything in your power to ensure that something like that never happens again either. But it would be a cold day in hell that I would bow, scrape and apologize for something I did not do. The whole apology for stuff you did not do thing just seems patronizing and somewhat pathetic.
     
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  3. nigel smith

    nigel smith Well-Known Member

    If you would set up a recurring monthly payment into my checking account, it would help atone for the whole Justin Bieber thing. Canada must pay for its crimes against humanity.
     
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  4. Rhino48

    Rhino48 Well-Known Member

    I am at your command. I stand ready, 200 miles south of the birthplace of said mongrel, to bring this fight to them if they don't comply.

    I will stop every Camaro with snow tires on steel wheels with the plastic frost free window ports and extension cords on the grille coming into the country, and exact the appropriate toll by cutting all their duty free cigarettes to 2/3d's length.
     
  5. Fonda Dix

    Fonda Dix Well-Known Member

    My direct ancestors owned hundreds and hundreds of slaves. I have the paperwork (often, humans sold for less than a good horse).

    I wont be apologizing or writing any checks.

    However, if it makes these cats feel better about themselves, then who am I to complain?
     
  6. cpettit

    cpettit Well-Known Member

    and nickleback, don't forget nickleback.
     
  7. cpettit

    cpettit Well-Known Member

    One of my ancestors in KY burned a whole church full of KKK members while they had a meeting in the 1800's. I wont be apologizing for that either.
     
  8. Fonda Dix

    Fonda Dix Well-Known Member

    That should actually be a point of pride for you. It would be for me.
     
  9. Orvis

    Orvis Well-Known Member

    While I agree with you in that there is nothing that you, I, or anyone else, should do to pay for someone elses sins of long ago I would sure like to see the Native Americans, or any other race for that matter, not be kicked around and cheated anymore. Sometimes it seems that we stand up and recognize that they were mistreated and the next week we screw them again.
     
  10. Orvis

    Orvis Well-Known Member

    Interestingly that movie was loosely based on a real person named Curly, who was an Army scout from the Crow tribe. Curly was a lucky sob because of the fact that he was fired the morning of Little Big Horn, left the Army camp and watched most of the battle from a nearby ridge. He's considered the only survivor. In later years he stretched the hell out of the truth by relating stories of how he fought in the battle, then covered himself in a buffalo robe making him appear to be Shoshone so he could escape.

    In fact, most of the stories in the movie are based on actual events. One thing that they did is reverse the time of two battles that were depicted. Sand Hill massacre and, if I remember right, Battle of Little Big Horn were reversed.
     
  11. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    Is that you grandfather?
     
  12. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    Even in little wars it s still a benefit. Currently the OPEC thugs are struggling as their extortion racket dried up when other sources became available. Now all the money they blew on corruption (Mexico), buying power (Venezuela), and supporting terrorism (Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc) is getting harder to come by as the market is not theirs.
     
  13. V5 Racer

    V5 Racer Yo!

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  14. Orvis

    Orvis Well-Known Member

    Curly was my lying no good son. He claimed to be Shoshone when all the time he knew he was a Modoc. :beer:
     
  15. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    He was not a Human Being.
     
  16. 2Fer

    2Fer Is good

    General Wesley Clark's son Wesley Jr was one of the ones there, Jr is an Army vet. I hope Dad disowns him or at least removes him from his will.
     
  17. Orvis

    Orvis Well-Known Member

    Whut wuz he?
     
  18. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    Rewatch Little Big Man
     
  19. joec

    joec brace yourself

    Dave?
     
  20. Rhino48

    Rhino48 Well-Known Member

    Ha!, maybe, do I know you?
     

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