Should Apple hack the phone?

Forgive me if I believe the 4th amendment is more powerful than the ease of you doing your job and the courts overreaching. I guess you'll just have to develop a personality and learn to talk to your suspects. Good luck with that.

 

Oh wow, I didn't realize I was dealing with another RFKA-lite here.......whoaaa scary stuff.


BTW- if you're completely CLUELESS on a subject, just pass dude, no one will ever think differently of you for it. What we're discussing here, points I've made in here.....NONE OF IT, has any negative bearing on the 4th Amendment. In fact, everything I've argued is FOLLOWING the USC to the T.......but you knew that right?

 

You mean like you crying like a bitch because the companies wouldn't move fast enough for your investigation (you poor baby)? Quick, change the subject again so you think you're still relevant.

 

And just so I'm not missing anything, they really don't know what they're looking for, but, they'll know if/when they find it, right?
How bad would it be if thousands/millions are tied up in this only to find out that he only used it to play Angry Birds?
They destroyed a couple of phones during the pursuit, right?

 

Im no, and LEO. Shit is kinda late to blame apple now isnt it? Like 911 already happened and if the NSA is that inept, well, you should be concerned with your own security.

Dont like terrorists n sh-t? Kill them all...in THEIR soil.

Tsa, nsa; its all a money pit to make you think youre safer.

Id rather give money to the Mussad. They are the only effective counter terrorist org out there.

 

Riiiight, spoken right from your well informed RFKA'esque inner self.

Almost as if those negatively affected cases don't have a victim who bares the brunt of a failed criminal case. Your retard is running on epic levels today, keep typing.

Oh and highly amusing attempt there about ME changing subjects, funny how my throwing right back at your face your fake ass 4th Amendment claim went out the window huh?

 

BRITT LIKES THIS?!?!?!??

WHAAAATTTTT??????????? ROFLMAOOOOOOOO!!!! I've read it all now!!! LOL

 

Ahh...the government and their ability to predict the future or the outcome of their own legislation is about an 1/8th as accurate as your local weatherman or Miss Cleo. I'll stick to my position of NO and the more you argue using your utter horseshit future possibilities the more I am inclined to say NO. By your way of thinking can we just go ahead and indict, arrest and sentence all the previous criminals that have held public office for the last 3 decades.

And your bit of horseshit is priceless. You want the computers companies to make the global internet less secure so that you can happily provide your government flavored version of security. Once again I'll pass Blart.

 

Ooooh, so close!

 

Man, I was wondering how long it'd take Kenny Banger to make another appearance.

I'm not gonna waste one more minute trying to explain the importance of case law and/or setting precedences to you, you have proven years ago that your brain can't compute that field very well.....so again, just go back to keyboard banging buddy.

 

Kenny Banger is busy not encrypting any of his corporate or personal data for inept law enforcement.

 

Interesting

From Business Insider:

Written by John McAfee
Cybersecurity expert John McAfee is running for president in the US as a member of the Libertarian Party. This is an op-ed article he wrote and gave us permission to run.

Using an obscure law, written in 1789 — the All Writs Act — the US government has ordered Apple to place a back door into its iOS software so the FBI can decrypt information on an iPhone used by one of the San Bernardino shooters.

It has finally come to this. After years of arguments by virtually every industry specialist that back doors will be a bigger boon to hackers and to our nation's enemies than publishing our nuclear codes and giving the keys to all of our military weapons to the Russians and the Chinese, our government has chosen, once again, not to listen to the minds that have created the glue that holds this world together.

This is a black day and the beginning of the end of the US as a world power. The government has ordered a disarmament of our already ancient cybersecurity and cyberdefense systems, and it is asking us to take a walk into that near horizon where cyberwar is unquestionably waiting, with nothing more than harsh words as a weapon and the hope that our enemies will take pity at our unarmed condition and treat us fairly.

Any student of world history will tell you that this is a dream. Would Hitler have stopped invading Poland if the Polish people had sweetly asked him not to do so? Those who think yes should stand strongly by Hillary Clinton’s side, whose cybersecurity platform includes negotiating with the Chinese so they will no longer launch cyberattacks against us.

The FBI, in a laughable and bizarre twist of logic, said the back door would be used only once and only in the San Bernardino case.

Tim Cook, CEO of Apple, replied:

The government suggests this tool could only be used once, on one phone. But that's simply not true. Once created, the technique could be used over and over again, on any number of devices. In the physical world, it would be the equivalent of a master key, capable of opening hundreds of millions of locks — from restaurants and banks to stores and homes. No reasonable person would find that acceptable.

The government is asking Apple to hack our own users and undermine decades of security advancements that protect our customers — including tens of millions of American citizens — from sophisticated hackers and cybercriminals. The same engineers who built strong encryption into the iPhone to protect our users would, ironically, be ordered to weaken those protections and make our users less safe.



No matter how you slice this pie, if the government succeeds in getting this back door, it will eventually get a back door into all encryption, and our world, as we know it, is over. In spite of the FBI's claim that it would protect the back door, we all know that's impossible. There are bad apples everywhere, and there only needs to be in the US government. Then a few million dollars, some beautiful women (or men), and a yacht trip to the Caribbean might be all it takes for our enemies to have full access to our secrets.

Cook said:

The FBI may use different words to describe this tool, but make no mistake: Building a version of iOS that bypasses security in this way would undeniably create a backdoor. And while the government may argue that its use would be limited to this case, there is no way to guarantee such control.

The fundamental question is this: Why can't the FBI crack the encryption on its own? It has the full resources of the best the US government can provide.

With all due respect to Tim Cook and Apple, I work with a team of the best hackers on the planet. These hackers attend Defcon in Las Vegas, and they are legends in their local hacking groups, such as HackMiami. They are all prodigies, with talents that defy normal human comprehension. About 75% are social engineers. The remainder are hardcore coders. I would eat my shoe on the Neil Cavuto show if we could not break the encryption on the San Bernardino phone. This is a pure and simple fact.

And why do the best hackers on the planet not work for the FBI? Because the FBI will not hire anyone with a 24-inch purple mohawk, 10-gauge ear piercings, and a tattooed face who demands to smoke weed while working and won't work for less than a half-million dollars a year. But you bet your ass that the Chinese and Russians are hiring similar people with similar demands and have been for many years. It's why we are decades behind in the cyber race.


Cyberscience is not just something you can learn. It is an innate talent. The Juilliard School of Music cannot create a Mozart. A Mozart or a Bach, much like our modern hacking community,is genetically created. A room full of Stanford computer science graduates cannot compete with a true hacker without even a high-school education.

So here is my offer to the FBI. I will, free of charge, decrypt the information on the San Bernardino phone, with my team. We will primarily use social engineering, and it will take us three weeks. If you accept my offer, then you will not need to ask Apple to place a back door in its product, which will be the beginning of the end of America.

If you doubt my credentials, Google "cybersecurity legend" and see whose name is the only name that appears in the first 10 results out of more than a quarter of a million.

 

Keep talking in circles if it makes you feel better fucktard. The subject is about the Apple case, which has already been pointed out to you, which you just keep avoiding. You then try and bring in some irrelevant bullshit about companies dragging their feet impeding your investigation. And you try and compare me to RFKA? That's his playbook, deflect, avoid, deflect. You poor baby, is it feeding time?

 

Well, then get back to it, cuz subjects involving the Law ain't your cup of tea.

 

Funny, subjects of common sense aren't yours.

 

Maybe they play Angry Virgins.

 

I suspect as it relates to my obligations for what I am or am not required to do to comply with law enforcements access to our corporate data that it's very much better than yours. I'll concede to you that I probably don't know all the best locations to get good donuts however.

 

If you say so, are you at the skate rink yet? shouldn't you be spinning a record by now?

 

Oh you kill me with humor, perhaps, in your next life you can give the comedy trail a go?