what’s going on in seattle?

Discussion in 'General' started by turbulence, Sep 28, 2019.

  1. Banditracer

    Banditracer Dogs - because people suck

    I don't understand how anybody can think that not paying the floorplan is ever going to work out. When we had Suzuki the floorplan checker had some stories like crates that looked unopened that had big rocks in them so they were heavy. So she had to peel back a little cardboard to make sure there was a bike in there.
     
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  2. baconologist

    baconologist Well-Known Member

    Have people not figured out, every scam is at-least 100y old?
     
  3. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    The dealer near us paid their floorplan - they just didn't pay the IRS or FICA...
     
  4. sdiver

    sdiver Well-Known Member

    My Aprilia came with 20% off and free install of any accessories at time of purchase. Plus you need the dealer tool to flash/calibrate race ECU. Sale price was competitive so yeah, kind of a no brainer to get it done there.
     
  5. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    Stand up guy, corners low?
     
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  6. Britt

    Britt Well-Known Member

    They also had "empty crates" with new bikes...it was crazy. (I do miss the old shop in SandyHook).
     
  7. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Sandy Hook?
     
  8. rice r0cket

    rice r0cket Well-Known Member

    I wonder how that will play out. Because the bikes were collateral for the $2.7m loan, technically when he defaulted, the bike became property of VW Credit, and no longer was the dealership's to sell.

    Hopefully they'll do the right thing, but I'm sure there are others that will want to get paid, and unfortunately individual customers have the least legal representation in most bankruptcy proceedings.
     
  9. JBraun

    JBraun Well-Known Member

    So you’re saying a motorcycle dealer cheated on his floor plan and used it as a credit line???

    I don’t believe it. I’m all shocked and appalled and shit...
     
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  10. Montoya

    Montoya Well-Known Member

    I'm guessing a lot will depend on if the paperwork for those cash sales, was filed with the state before the bankruptcy filing. Depending on the timeline... this will be messy, either way.
     
  11. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    If the customer paid for the bike it is theirs not the finance companies. No matter what the dealer owes.

    In this case it seems like he didn't truly default until he closed down the shop.
     
  12. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    For those of us who only bought bikes and know nothing about selling them professionally, what's that floor plan y'all talking about? I can only figure out that it doesn't really mean floor plan.
     
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  13. ChemGuy

    ChemGuy Harden The F%@# Up!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retail_floorplan
     
  14. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

  15. Johnny B

    Johnny B Cone Rights Activist

    Funny thing is that the Mom and Pop dealership I worked for managed to pay for all of the inventory at their Honda car/motorcycle dealership. I previously worked at a Cadillac dealership and remember the weekly visits from GMAC to check on inventory. There was the largest Chevy dealership in Illinois that bounced one floor plan check to GMAC and they immediately descended upon them with a fleet of tow trucks and hauled about 900 cars away.
     
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  16. RRP

    RRP Kinda Superbikey

    Where was that dealership located in Illinois?
     
  17. Johnny B

    Johnny B Cone Rights Activist

    I believe it was in Chicago, but it was decades ago.
     
  18. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

  19. 418

    418 Expert #59


    Been there, done that.

    About 15 years ago a local Chevy dealer lot was cleaned out overnight few months after I quit my service writer position there. There was always fires to put out, I knew their time was short.

    Same owner was recently arrested for multiple felony theft by conversion charges running a independent lot out of the same location. Floor planning same cars multiple times and pocketing state taxes. Needless to say, once you steal from the state your time is short.
     
  20. rd49

    rd49 Well-Known Member

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