Why doesn't God stop gun violence

youre not that thick sir. "Nothing like God testing you as you watch your child die of brain cancer right" is an accusation.

the "free pass" as you call it isn't about "helping". your are 100% correct. sin sucks. evil sucks. illness sucks. however, love is incredible. love overcomes all things. free will allows for love. everything else is worth it.

 

pretty sure it's going to be one of those guys that screams at people on college campuses

 

it is crystal clear to me. for God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that who so ever believeth, shall have eternal life.

 

misery comes in many forms. i have explained why misery exists. you can focus on the misery or not. that is your choice (see how free will shows up? ) like anyone else, you help the cancer patient by trying to heal them. you can heal the body and you can heal the soul. both are important on earth. one is important forever.

if you see what started the post, you will hear Ravi explain it again....love is so important, that free will was necessary to allow love to exist. free will introduced sin. sin caused the world to enter a fallen state. cancer is one sign of that. you may not agree with that, but that is a pretty clear "cause/effect" explanation.

 

just because you don't like my explanation, doesn't mean i'm the problem.

 

How long has the current bible been out? When’s the next version dropping?

Kinda hard t believe god hasn’t spoken to anyone or had anyone update his words in quite a few years....

Weird!

 

Methodists do it every day of the week.

 

Can we start killing lawyers now?

 

I'm thick? God created the universe, and everything in it, therefore God created cancer. I know, we'll blame it on mother nature, since that bitch gets the rotten end of everything bad. God gave us this glorious beautiful day, mother nature is a bitch for that tornado. Everything is Gods will until shit goes south, and then it's free will this and free will that. Give me a break.

I don't blame God because I don't believe God exists anymore than I believe Rah, or any of the other fictional characters some people rely on as a crutch to get through life (my mother is a perfect example of that). I don't need a book of fiction to tell me right from wrong. I don't need preaching from a pastor to teach me how to love. Maybe you do?

Since the devil can dance a jig, I hope he can show me how to pop and lock. I could never get it down.

 

Did you not hear Mongo?
No one is listening. Even if the words come bellowing loudly, we'll be in disbelief and totally question the message.

 

Yeah, I guess I really don't think God worries too much about me or anyone else.

Man, this is a rough world we live in. Rougher for some (kids with cancer and their families) than others. Please understand, I'm not trying to make light of it. I don't know what I'd do if one of my girls was taken from me. But then there wouldn't be much I could do seeing as how it isn't up to me.

A student of mine recently wrote an essay about a friend of his who died of cancer at age 9. He talked about good memories and called the kid a warrior. He loved his friend in life and death, and I think he is very grateful for having known him.

I guess, ultimately, my response to the kid would be I don't know, but since you're here now why don't we play Uno or bake cookies or watch a scary movie together. I'd like to think that I would do everything I could to make that kid live as much as possible in the time he had and then hold on to those memories in the hopes that it would dull the unspeakable pain of losing him. I hope I would be grateful for the time I had.

Lots of people on this forum (including me) say things like life sucks, get used to it...It isn't fair...You're not special...Nobody owes you shit. Often times these are responses to situations where somebody is complaining about a perceived injustice. If anything qualifies as unjust, it's kids getting cancer. And the reality is that life sucks, get used to it. It isn't fair, that kid isn't special, and nobody owes him shit. So, faced with that HORROR, I can either whinge about how unfair it is (in utter futility), or I can choose to accept it and hope (have faith?) that maybe there was a higher purpose for that life cut short.

 

Day ain't over yet. I just made another post.

 

We are all sinners.
Jesus loves sinners.

What the deuce?!

Seriously, has anyone ever considered that religion might be the devil's work?

 

What gets me is the talking out both sides of your mouth.

You say that god can't stop gun violence because he gave us free will and it's all up to us. The people on the pointy end of the muzzle didn't use their free will to get there.

Out the other side of your mouth you say that god has a plan for everyone & everything, and is omnipotent.

If that's true, then how can you say god didn't put the shooting victim in the crosshairs? How can you say god didn't give the kid cancer? If he's got a plan for everything, then that's all part of his plan.

Sounds like a fucked up dude!

But you invent a third side of your mouth & say he wouldn't give you anything you couldn't handle.

Except lead poisoning or juvenile leukemia... which will kill you.

But you can handle it.

 

EXACTLY!