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Tech guys, recommend a vpn

Discussion in 'General' started by notbostrom, Feb 19, 2024.

  1. notbostrom

    notbostrom DaveK broke the interwebs

    Need to keep my shit private. What should I be using?
  2. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    Better judgment. :Poke:

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  3. nd4spd

    nd4spd Well-Known Member

    Nothing. A VPN absorbs all of your traffic and shifts it from your ISP knowing everything to the VPN provider knowing everything. And you're paying them for it just so they can re-sell it. There's no better honeypot than some data mining company posing as a VPN provider to steal all of your data.
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  4. Venom51

    Venom51 John Deere Equipment Expert - Not really

    Privacy no longer exists. Everyone gave it up for the reward of "free" email.
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  5. notbostrom

    notbostrom DaveK broke the interwebs

    WTF does that mean? I'm trying to be sure some medical and financial data is secure.
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  6. CBRRRRR999

    CBRRRRR999 Well-Known Member

    Pure has done me well but we got in early and its $9 a year for another year or so.
  7. prm

    prm Well-Known Member

    I’m no tech expert, but Proton seems worth looking into. I use their email.
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  8. Jed

    Jed mellifluous

    Secure where? On your machine? At the host? En route?
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  9. 2blueYam

    2blueYam Track Day Addict

    If you want it to secure you on public unsecured wi-fi, then basically any of them will do that. The VPN that came with my paid for security software is fine for that sort of thing.

    With that said, the completely free ones will resell your "data". They should not have access to your passwords, healthcare records, or actual banking balances as that data should be secured / encrypted between the provider's server and the app / browser. That assumes the bank / healthcare place is doing their tech job right. There are significant penalties for not doing that job right. Those include penalties by HIPPA, and a number of banking regs, and possibly worst is reputational risk.

    The VPNs will know what banks and healthcare providers you use, but they should not be able to see the traffic once it is encrypted between your computer / phone and the provider's server. Can a good hacker overcome that security? Sure, but time from people with those talents costs more money than they would make on the data.
  10. YoshiHNS

    YoshiHNS Mr. Slowly

    Mullvad is fine.
    If it's an issue of being away from home, and you only trust your home internet, you can roll your own vpn that will let your phone/laptop securely connect to your home internet.

    No one is stealing your data "in transit". They're poking around file servers looking for one that still has the basic admin acount activated with the default password of 'password' or '1234' still set. Then they sit on it until they think there's enough data and run off into the night.
  11. BrentA

    BrentA Very expensive.

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  12. Smilodon

    Smilodon Wannabe

    I've had good success with ExpressVPN. There is a performance hit using a VPN, but they seem to perform well. Customer service is good. They are also one of the better ones at providing good points of presence in foreign countries. Useful for any overseas motorsports fans.
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  13. 2blueYam

    2blueYam Track Day Addict

    I should have added that I have used NordVPN in the past. They seem to be pretty good, but since my security software now includes a basic VPN, I don't spend the extra for a standalone. Nord would let me select the country and server. The one I use now, doesn't. It just connects to the server it thinks is best. This may be less useful if you are trying to hide what country or state you are residing in for whatever reason. ;)
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  14. Rico888

    Rico888 Well-Known Member

    Use Nord here…tried a few others but Nord has been one that seems to work for my needs…stay away from anything that is “free”
    for obvious reasons…
    As has been mentioned, privacy no longer exists…free email took care of that…sister shifted to Proton, claiming it gives her more privacy but I don’t know anything about the service.
  15. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    I bought 2 years of Nord take get a big discount almost two years ago. Pretty happy with it.
  16. Wheel Bearing

    Wheel Bearing Professional low sider

  17. PatricksDad

    PatricksDad Won’t die a blob

    My girl has spent time in 6 countries since 2022 and Nord has become the best for that kind of mobility. I use it at home because our tier it supports multiple devices in multiple locations. Great support and performance.
  18. Michael Bassani

    Michael Bassani Well-Known Member

    If your favorite YouTuber is advertising it, avoid it.

    I work in a field that is cyber security adjacent, nearly everyone on my direct team, as well as the corp sec folks at my company adamantly use ProtonVPN, as do I.

    Most VPN services like Nord or Express are subject to federal jurisdiction and have had some serious issues with timely security disclosures that have proven them untenable time and time and again.

    Hell, even just this past week ExpressVPN disclosed it was leaking DNS records for years, which is like, the whole fucking point of their service to prevent.

    Services like Mullvad and Proton regularly reply with the legal equivalent of a middle finger to data requests. ArsTechnica has a good article with the frequent Q&A that touches on VPN services.

    If there are any road racers who also work in a cyber field, here is the relevant xkcd.
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  19. Kurlon

    Kurlon Well-Known Member

    Senior IT Eng, for an ISP. Working on your own data hygiene will do WAY more for you than slapping a wrapper on your packets so they piss out of an unknown point somewhere else in the world. 'VPNs' as sold are not VPNs proper, they're just changing your onramp. Your data is still just as exposed and traveling on hardware / networks controlled by others, just now it's a different set of others, maybe. They do nothing for actual security.

    Also, as an ISP I've got zero interest in your data, the less I have to know the better, it means the less I have to store, back up, audit, have a DR plan for, have policies for deletion, etc. Not all ISPs are the same, but it's SOOOOO easy to not give me the opportunity to easily harvest info without snake oil VPNing.
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  20. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    p.s. I use Nord for access, not for security. It's turned off 90% of the time.
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