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Paging California Rob: welfare check

Discussion in 'General' started by HPPT, Jan 8, 2025.

  1. TWF2

    TWF2 2 heads are better than 1

    None has done so much damage either. There was another big one up north (Paradise few years back) that did a lot of damage and was all over the news as well.
     
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  2. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    The one in Hawaii was front page for a while as well. I don't recall any celebrities mentioned other than Oprah who had a house there and didn't appear on camera that I know of.
     
  3. DDK732

    DDK732 Well-Known Member

    We had a big fire here in Orange County September/ October of last year. It lasted for about a month and burned nearly 24,000 acres, destroying around 160 structures. The area was not as densely populated as the Pacific Palisades or Eaton fires so not nearly as costly. We had another big fire a few years ago that was dangerously close to Kawi headquarters. That one burned up around 12,000 acres.

    We had a close call in 2007 with the Santiago fire too. That one got all the way up to our neighborhood but, thankfully, no houses were lost.

    Fall of 2007 was a very bad fire season for California. 30+ fires and 972,000 acres burned. Same conditions back then, dry weather with 80+ mph Santa Ana winds. This year just seems weird because of the timing. We usually have Santa Ana winds in late fall around October, not January.
     
  4. TWF2

    TWF2 2 heads are better than 1

    There is about 8,000 wildfires in CA every year
     
  5. ducrcr

    ducrcr reasonably fast old guy

    Bullshit. The Paradise fire had saturation coverage in the media.
    And every year when there's wildfires out west they're covered in the news.
     
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  6. ToofPic

    ToofPic Well-Known Member

    So..You..are saying this is just business as usual? This particular fire is just another willy,nilly California freak of regular yearly nature!? Im originally from out east,and my family there has never had anything like this in news. This state,if you can call it that..is a circus shit show of fruity freaks that no one follows,except the mental cases that drink the kool aid.HERE!! and only HERE!! Those horse blinders can only get you so far. It will be time to eat that crow,and its coming very soon!
     
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  7. Hotfoot

    Hotfoot Well-Known Member

    I live in So CA, too - south of the fires but had many days of power shut offs. About the "lack of water" for fighting the fires - anyone else notice that in many of the news shots there is water everywhere, in many cases covering the entire street? I was wondering how they could keep saying there was no water... then I heard one of the fire chiefs say that most of the houses (especially the big ones) have sprinkler systems installed, and so many of them were activated at once that it lowered the available water pressure. Then some of them burned and damaged the pipes and those same sprinkler systems were pouring water out unrestricted, from busted pipes/sprinklers so it dropped the pressure even more. So... standing water in the street but not enough water at the hydrants.

    This is the first explanation I have heard that makes sense to me. You are required to put fire sprinklers in practically all buildings and houses now (especially anything new or large), I could see how a widespread fire would activate so many at once that there would not be enough pressure at the hydrants.
     
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  8. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    Welcome to NYC Congestion Pricing :\
     
  9. pickled egg

    pickled egg Well-Known Member

    No minivan exception?

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  10. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    maybe minivans are exempt from all rules

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  11. gixer1100

    gixer1100 CEREAL KILLER

    yes, this fire is like other fires here - they happen yearly. sometimes in less dense spots, sometimes more. recently the fires burned up and over the mountains, through wrightwood (mtn high ski hill - google mtn high fire and you will see pics - amazing it never burned!) and into the high desert. HUGE fire. luckily these often happen in less populated places. this one happened in a very populated place with rich people. with winds like that, they can happen anywhere. in 2003 a massive fire happened where i live called the "old fire" IIRC. these things happen too often here. dry land and high winds. and if if you are implying california isnt a state - well indeed it is and its by far the largest economy in the USA contributing the most tax dollars to the US govt.
     
  12. nd4spd

    nd4spd Well-Known Member

  13. gixer1100

    gixer1100 CEREAL KILLER

    mismanagement in what way? there is little rain ( we havent had rain in several months), so the area is dry, the winds are often strong. these things cant be managed. there are things that can be done better, but you cant account for allllllll the dry brush alllll over the 4 counties down here, much of it in rugged mountains and hills over 7k ft high in places.
     
  14. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    I think we will find it was arson on at least some of these. Who knows, but I think the one that started by a tower holding the overhead power lines, was arson. They haven't said that yet, but just this morning i heard on the news that the power company sadi there were no anomalies on the lines in that area at that time. They didn't say it on that news cast, but I'm presuming there usually are anomalies that show up, when it is the power companies fault.
     
  15. nd4spd

    nd4spd Well-Known Member

    https://arstechnica.com/science/202...ng-more-prescribed-burns-to-reduce-fire-risk/
     
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  16. ToofPic

    ToofPic Well-Known Member

    The big one we had in Lake/Mef head county this summer was deliberately set by a homeless man.
    Days later,yet another homeless man helped it along with another set fire in what they call The Avenues here.
    Its a huge grid of poor people in the area,and it took days to put out,and big losses to families. I think it made
    the news in San Francisco paper, but definitely not national news. Strange? :rolleyes:
    We do have an awesome lake, and the planes, and helicopters were able to do small jumps from lake to fires spots.
    This certainly saved several structures, the wal-mart (God forbid) and the Tractor supply!! It's amazing what a water source near a fire can accomplish!:dead:
    I just wish the state had some form of readily available water for fires,until then,we can only wish for an ocean:Pop:
     
  17. ToofPic

    ToofPic Well-Known Member

    The injuns? I think their called ? Pomo ? do lots of prescribed burns across the lake from me.Been told they always had throughout history,and for the most part the controlled burns had curbed the damage from full on fueled fires. Luckily gubment stepped in and stopped that shit! Theres some awesome video of that" greasy haired guy" bragging about clearing out dams,and other videos that aren't
    aging very well.
     
  18. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    The part of the reason people love California, the weather, is also the part that is its biggest issue. the proverbial can't have your cake and eat it too situation.

    Hope those middle and lower income folks, and small businesses are able to survive this and rebuild...probably somewhere else would be better
     
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  19. nd4spd

    nd4spd Well-Known Member

    They were prohibited from doing so for decades. The older generations of the tribe that had working knowledge and experience to do the burns died off by the time courts restored their ability to do them. The current generation is only working with what they were told by their elders and have little practical experience since the ruling was overturned.
     
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  20. Banditracer

    Banditracer Dogs - because people suck

    How about the mismanagement of the homeless that are starting the fires ? Homeless population is up 40% under Mr. hair grease. As I said before, elections have consequences.
     

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