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MotoAmerica Pre-season test live timing

Discussion in 'General' started by Henrybgood2, Mar 26, 2018.

  1. regularguy

    regularguy Always Krispy

    I think the 390R might be the sleeper in the class..
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  2. cajun636

    cajun636 Honda Junkie.

    Why so?

    And yeah I was trying to find out about the Q3’s for the little bikes too and can’t find anything
  3. ghetto customs

    ghetto customs Who's that Parrish guy?

    For your weight, and yer definitely ugly, stick with the 120, 165 slick combo.
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  4. t11ravis

    t11ravis huge carbon footprint

    Dustin can't catch a break.
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  5. r6boater

    r6boater Logged out

    Draik rode one in Spain... they are pretty sweet.

    He also said he didn't notice any difference between the tires he got from mailed from RTS vs the ones he got at Barber from RTS...
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  6. cajun636

    cajun636 Honda Junkie.

    With friends like who needs enemies lol
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  7. cBJr

    cBJr Well-Known Member

    Is it really tires or just an off day due to weather or whatever?
  8. cajun636

    cajun636 Honda Junkie.

    It is probably a number of things. I don’t believe most have been there before and are/were just going for familiarization I’d guess.

    Plus it would appear all the kids are in the JR
    Cup to showcase themselves
  9. regularguy

    regularguy Always Krispy

    I don't think any tire is going to like 45-50 degree temps like they had on day one. I rode the spec Dunlops at Roebling and they had a lot of grip Stiff carcass is quite different from the other brands.
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  10. wrlamkin

    wrlamkin Well-Known Member

    Results from the test

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  11. Kelly Rees

    Kelly Rees Well-Known Member

    The test was pretty good, cant complain about our results for sure.

    On the Jr. Cup stuff... MA will need to address the Ninja and the RC390R quickly if they want that class to be successful. When a bone stock 400 is rolling 9 mph faster through the traps than a Graves R3 there may be an issue. We kept a close eye on sector times and the R3's were as fast as anything on the track until a sector with a straight... then the 400 and 390 were gone. We had .8+ second leads disappear in half the straight. The R3's couldnt even hold the draft behind them. The 390R is one of those bikes that pisses me off. Its everything that class shouldnt be, its a $24,000 race bike with the SSP300 kit they were running. I called KTM and they have no idea when the kit will be available to the public in the US. MotoAmerica said they will follow FIM, their rulebook calls for a 16 kilo weight penalty on the 400. MA only shows 10.

    If they dont balance those 2 bikes it will turn into the Kawi cup by round 3.
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  12. TX Joose

    TX Joose Well-Known Member

    We already have a a Yamaha cup. Why not a kawi one?
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  13. Kelly Rees

    Kelly Rees Well-Known Member

    You may want to go back and look at the 600 results from last year. Suzuki and Kawi were both on the box pretty much every weekend, Honda even managed a few podiums. I'm good with the Kawi 400 in the Jr. Cup if they let us big bore/stroke the R3 to match displacement.
  14. sbk1198

    sbk1198 Well-Known Member

    Don't worry, just give it a year and yamaha will release an R4 that's gonna be like 420-450cc and then everyone will switch to those and the Kawasaki guys will complain. The cycle will continue, unless manufacturers stop the displacement pissing contest.
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  15. Kelly Rees

    Kelly Rees Well-Known Member

    I really wish they would stop.
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  16. stangmx13

    stangmx13 Well-Known Member

    its seems like theres always an arms race on bikes that sell. its an ez way to keep them selling... until they get too expensive of course.
  17. metricdevilmoto

    metricdevilmoto Just forking around

    The biggest problem with performance indexing the 300 class is that there will be a lot of discrepancy between the skills of the racers as well as the motorcycles.
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  18. RM Racing

    RM Racing Tool user

    MA does not have the equipment or budget to properly test the bikes, so they will rely on what the FIM does and follow suit.
  19. Well stated. The smaller classes are a lot tougher due to riders being at a lot different stages of development. Example. One bike could have say a 7mph difference on a straight But there are other factors there like corner exit speed, where they were at WOT, body position etc. Some advantages will be obvious while others may be more difficult to fully diagnose, especially with the variation in skills level.
    For the small bike stuff I’m a fan of spec bikes mainly due to this fact.
  20. regularguy

    regularguy Always Krispy

    I have a mobile DJ250. I could bring it to VIR. Maybe I should give MA a call..
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