Legit electric car question

Even if that were true (it isn't), note that they replace their ICE cars when they sell them. They did not plan to replace the EVs. Well, they did, but with ICE cars, didn't they?
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FYI, I'm far from an anti. I think EVs have their place and can be great for some people just like trucks can be great for some people. Neither of them are great for everyone.

 

thats'a lotta maybes... in the next decade, what if they get gas cars to do 100mpg? or develop some newfangled gas engine that doesn't wear out, or they decide minding lithium and other stuff using child and slave labor, while digging massive holes in the earth isn't a good idea after all ? or that building electric power plants to produce enough electricity to meet insane ev mandates, and the cost going up exponentially for electricity, makes owning ev's more expensive than many think today??
i'm not saying you are wrong, you very well may be onto something.. but assuming what will be the case in 10+ years, at the rate things are advancing right now, may be a bit of a reach?

 

You forgot all the water that gets made useless for farmers as they use it for the lithium processing.

Careful Gents....you may be accused of "Confirmation Bias" or some other fancy mumbo jumbo bullshit that tries to accuse you have not having a well researched and well thought out conclusion.

 

Doubt it. Our respective approaches to the subject matter are not even close.

 

If the roads lead to the same place....I don't really care. It just means we navigated to the same destination different ways. 2+2 =4 no matter which 2 is listed first.

 

The best part of confirmation bias is that those that have it overlook having it by default.

Now.... I'm off to buy the dippity-dip-of-the-dip in silver.

 

Whatever you say. I’ve noticed other occurrences of the same thing and almost posted the rent free thing before, but decided not to.

FWIW I don’t even have a clue what state you live in, just know it is likely cold since you are a fan of the Ravens, and hate the Steelers, and those are cold weather division teams.

 

Teslas are only a small percentage of all EVs sold worldwide. So many non EV people seem to use their expenses, range, charging, battery costs, etc. to determine the viability of any EV, but that is a horrible comparison. Musk is a charlatan who has overcharged everything he can from the get go. BYD's products are a more applicable standard all legacy car manufacturers are trying to equal and a better baseline comparison.

 

It's called thermal runaway. Short circuits (isolation faults, loss of isolation to ground) cause the cells to overheat, heat the adjacent cells, the energy becomes self-sustaining, and they emit hydrogen gas (among other gases) which catches fire. (plenty of examples can be Googled) The breather valves are there to release the pressure build up when this starts to occur to prevent explosive gas pressures inside the enclosure.If, for some reason, on a healthy pack, those breather valves allow water ingress due to extreme conditions, water can enter the enclosure. If the water creates isolation loss in both sides of the circuit, thermal runaway is likely. Sea water is a better conductor than fresh water, so that's why you see these incidents during hurricanes.

 

Oh look. Captain Dumbass wrote another novel of uninformed dumbassery.

Hallelujah!

 

Yep. Not worth responding to. I've got holes in ozone to make, and carbon dioxide to expel.

 

Yes, what if in the next decade gas cars go 100mpg on average, a feat that has not come close to being achieved in the 130 year history of the automobile.

Let me give you an idea of how efficient EVs are. A gallon of gas has about 36kw of energy stored in it. My EV (small SUV) has about 75kw of usable battery storage, roughly 2 gallons of gas worth. But with that two gallons of gas energy equivalent, I did about 315 actual (not Tesla overly optimistic estimated) miles with a highway/city split on my last charge. That's 150mpg minimum and more if I economize. Meanwhile, the national average standard for all cars and trucks that manufacturers must meet is about 40 miles per gallon.

And that energy comparison does not take into account the even larger carbon differences. Tiny car engines are incredibly inefficient compared to industrialized power plants. Even if an EV is recharged completely from coal fired power plants, it still produces roughly 4-8x less carbon per mile than an ICE car. My utility produces 42% from renewables and the remainder from natural gas, so it is many times better than that hypothetical.

EVs charge at night during off peak hours. They do not strain the grid and will not require several times the power output that non EV folks worry about. In fact, providing more even power demands during these hours can actually relieve the storage constraints many utilities are struggling with already.

To give you a conception of the power available, putting solar on merely 1% of the Sahara Desert could power the entire world's needs: https://www.carbongate.io/en/blog/sahra-colu-nu-gunes-enerjisiyle-kaplamak-net-zero-icin-cozum-mu#:~:text=This means that covering 1,energy could be produced annually.

 

Roughly 14 million EVs were sold in 2023. Tesla sold only 1.8 million. You have a device in the palm of your hand that contains the sum total of acquired knowledge by our species. You know you can use it before commenting, right?

 

That device also contains the ramblings of morons, propagandists and the mentally ill (or in your case, all three).

Let me know when the white coats with the butterfly nets show up, ha-ha, hee-hee, ho-ho!

 

You missed power plant efficiency. So the power plant used 2.5 gallons of gas to get your 36kw of energy. So you are down to 63 mpg and thats before transmission and transformer losses.

 

Cite? You see a lot of gasoline powered power plants, huh?

 

It's probably more than that to haul the coal to the power plant, the rare minerals to the solar panel factory and windmill factory, plus the cost of the hauling away of the "renewables" as they won't be accepted by regular landfills since the carbon fiber blades and panels don't break down until the Voyager spacecraft get to the outer edges of our Universe.

He doesn't want to look at the entire logistics chain and life cycle of his ideas. It shoots so many holes in his Holier than Thou.

 

If I had a daughter, I'd absolutely get her an EV.

I can regulate her speed, I know she won't get talked into a road trip to California, and she comes home each night for free energy, she isn't getting carjacked at the gas station late at night, etc.

No overheating, neglected oil changes, antifreeze freezing in the night. The list keeps going and going.

This has nothing to do with trying to change the weather, just a functional thing for me.

Would I trade my truck for one, no. No way

 

Misogyny!!!!!!

 

Luckily, others have already calculated the complete emissions of EVs vs ICE car including their production carbon costs. New EVs pass ICE cars around 8000 miles and produce many, many times less carbon over their lifespan: https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-electric-vehicles-definitely-better-climate-gas-powered-cars