Legit electric car question

Well, when there is a positive side...I'll be happy to admit it and will cite sources to that fact. As of yet, I've not seen anything. I've also not seen what problem is being solved by this
concept/idea.

I'm actually a fan of hybrid's. I've had two. That's because they extend the range of a gallon of fuel and capture potential energy into kinetic energy without taxing our electrical grid.
They're also relatively reasonably priced. My 2013 Ford Fusion Hybrd was exaclty $30,300. After the purchase price I had still money in my pocket for I figured about 350K miles of gas based on the average mileage that car achieved as a daily driver. It got replaced by a 2020 Highlander Hybrid that cost $1500 more than a similar ICE 2020 Highlander. 45mpg was sweet in that rig and I needed it to haul my kid and his growing sports equipment around our chairs/coolers to his games. It got totaled this past winter.

I replaced it with a 2024 ICE Tacoma and I absolutely love it. Doesn't get hybrid gas mileage, though. I looked at their Hybrid option for 2024, but it costs what my 2017 F350 Dually costs me..so PASS on that option. But, by going with just an ICE engine this time, at the current fuel price of $3 at the pump..I still have money left for 250,000 miles of gas.

Your assumption of my "Confirmation Bias" is absolutely dead wrong. I'm all about solutions...doing things a better way...that's how I make my living...BUT, all indicators tell me this EV option is NOT a solution.

 

There are pretty good comparisons out there between EV and ICE. They use same model car. Cost wise it is not that much difference between them.
Since wife hates scraping ice of the windows she gets one that can be parked inside

 

Learned from my Mom, if you drap a sheet across your windshield...hold it down with the wiper arms, and shut the doors with teh end of the sheets in the closed doors, you can just peel the sheet off and there is no frost. My car sat outside in ND in high school and the front was 1/4 inch thick in the morning and you needed a hammer and chisel to get it to give you a little portal to see out. The sheet was an awesome idea....it was kinda cool too because it would almost become a mold of the car overnight and come off like a molded form. Like plaster of paris.

 

When we first moved here before I built huge garage to store all vehicles wife had some plastic sheet she would put on windshield that worked pretty good. By the time I get out of the bed ice is gone so I never had that problem .
We also have rodents around here and they like wire harness.

 

Have none of you dump trucks ever heard of a remote starter and defroster?

Fuck the hoe-zone lay-her or whatever other shit the potpourri peddling hemp huggers claim you’re killing, I refuse to scrape ice!

 

Hertz had a real tough time getting people to rent
the EVs because most people don't care to take on the
added burden of tracking down places to recharge the
things, especially when they are renting it someplace
they have traveled to and aren't familiar with. Gas
stations are easy to find and quick to use.
And they are taking a bath getting rid of them because
the market for used EVs is dismal.

 

Guy who says charging stations are not the problem says EVs are not being rented because the availability of charging stations is the problem.

Hertz did not dump their EVs. They sold them as they do all their rentals, after a few years as expected/planned. When was the last time you rented a ten year old car from them?

 

Take little more than just defroster

 

They dumped them buy selling them at a tremendous loss.
And the telling sign is they did NOT replace them with more EVs.

God. You cannot make a point with an ice pick.

 

I won’t scrape ice.

Brushing snow ain’t no thang.

 

The F150 Lightning sales are substantially up this year, just not as much as Ford predicted, so they are having to slow down production. Sales are up with virtually all EVs, but they are not growing as fast as predicted. This slow down by Ford is far from an EV death knell.

With that said, I think Toyota has it right. Take your batteries and build 30 hybrids and you save more fuel than building 1 EV, particularly when the grid is still a long way from 100% clean energy. Hybrids are significantly more reliable than the average ICE car at this time. While there are more systems to maintain, neither system is pushed as hard. You can keep that battery in ideal charging range. The gas motor generally isn't pushed as hard either as the electrics can provide those short bursts of torque for merging / accelerating into traffic. PHEVs are another story as can be seen in this thread, but when PHEVs have been around as long as hybrids have been around now, I expect they will have similar reliability.

 

“Waning customer demand”.

 

I knew of a guy here that poured hot water on his frosted windshield thinking he was saving effort vs scraping....which he did....then he got a new windshield after his idea shattered his glass.

Marylanders.

 

lol... remote start & ventilated/heated seats are a must have

 

Wow, I really am living rent free in your head.

 

What year is your EV and how many miles are on it? I have friends that have spent big money replacing Tesla batteries, drive motors, computers etc. I’ve spoken of it on here before, can remember the exact breakout, but one spent around 20k for a battery when the car bricked. Then a week later it bricks again and now it is an updated drive system and computers. I don’t know the exact specifics, but it was another 17-20k. I wouldn’t have done it, but they did to keep the free supercharging.

I can say in the forklift industry electrics cost more to initially buy and are worth significantly less at trade in time. That seems to be the exact same thing happening in the automotive industry.

Are you adding in the rapid depreciation of electrics into your calculations? How about the higher insurance? I know my wife’s Mercedes 580 EQS is something ridiculous like $1800 every 6 months to insure. I think the next most expensive car is $6-700 every 6 months and that’s my old F350 diesel.

 

Not even close. I just happen to hear/read a news story/article about the California EV's propagating a mileage tax over the weekend that corresponded with your statement. It was just timing.


https://forums.13x.com/index.php?threads/official-youtube-video-thread.215117/page-1184#post-6238487

 

The Great Oracle has spoken! Hertz is NOT dumping EVs, it's just a regularly scheduled sell off!!
Don't believe Hertz themselves or anyone else that says otherwise.

https://www.reuters.com/business/au...rtz-sell-about-20000-evs-us-fleet-2024-01-11/

 

so is it basically like connecting + and - terminals, and shorting out once submerged, one way these catch fire? didn't know anything about there being breather valves on ev packs. i'm learnin every day. will be interesting what ya come up with ..