Legit electric car question

All they had was Makers.... at least the drink tickets were unlimited as the wife works for one of the higher-ups.

 

Charging cable thieves pose yet another obstacle to EVs
Hundreds are being stolen: Thieves swiped 18 of 19 cords at a Tesla station

https://www.autoblog.com/2024/06/12/charging-cable-thieves-pose-yet-another-obstacle-to-evs/

 

In somewhat related news, if anyone in California or a CARB compliant state want to buy a new diesel pusher or Super C motorhomes for 2025, they may be out of luck. CARB basically banned the sale of new ones, as Spartan and Freightliner don't have any electric vehicles to offset them. Mercedes Sprinter, Ford E350, E450, F53, F550, and F600 based motorhomes are still good for now because of the electric vehicles they sell. I would suspect Chevy would be OK with the Bolt and LYRIC sales, but probably not International. That leaves only the smaller mid-sized pickup chassis based Super Cs available for bigger towing. There are a couple of prototypes running for electric powered MHs, but mostly just class B vans and one company trying a generator and battery / electric motor driven diesel pusher conversion experiment.

No politics intended here, just letting folks know in case they are thinking of a new MH for their racing or track days.

 

The local Peterbilt dealer to me was required to buy a couple electric semis to keep their dealership status or some such shit. Owner didn't even want them.

Nobody wants them.

Even worse they had to put some crazy ass charger in. I forget the voltage but it's cables the size of your wrist.

 

It may be time to rethink racing EVs.

https://www.dragzine.com/features/l...e-ev-battery-fire-at-wagler-motorsports-park/

 

'Dragzine', the well known unbiased EV advocate, huh?

EV's have a 61 times lower chance of fire than ICE vehicles. "Data from the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board shows that there are approximately 25 fires for every 100,000 EVs sold. In comparison, there are approximately 1,530 fires for every 100,000 gas-powered vehicles sold."

See here: https://news.med.miami.edu/electric-vehicle-fire-staged-to-study-environmental-health-ramifications/#:~:text=Data from the U.S. National,100,000 gas-powered vehicles sold.

 

How many 10 to 30+ ICE are registered and operated on the roads are there currently? I still see a Ford Pinto once im a while.

How many similar aged EV's are out there being driven regularly? Anytime I see a car fire it's almost always an older and thus likely less than ideally maintained vehicle.

Various electrical connections will become neglected over years of ownership by some 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' owners, without any doubt.

Then there are collisions...

 

perhaps.. the problem is putting OUT the ev fire. it's no where near typical, and ya have a way harder time containing it, and putting an ev fire out. We had a bunch of em explode here in FL during the storm surge of the hurricanes. once submerged, it's like connecting the + and - terminals of a typical battery from what a couple fire fighters i ride with told me. they were called to a couple ev fires that took the entire house one a couple feet of water went in the garage of the ev car.

 

This was also a homebrew race EV that didn't have any safeties that would have screamed about the degrading state of that abused battery.

 

Nobody likes ev apologists

Go chat among your vegan friends

 

Preventing that is part of what I do for a living now. It’s challenging when storm surge exerts positive pressure on the breather valves in an EV pack and pushes saltwater in there. (Conductor, i.e. short circuit) Not a perfect technology.

 

CA law that every new house must have charging plug in garage should be changed to must have charging plug 200' away from house
This is problem for me, park car in garage plug in and during night it starts fire. ICE are not likely to do that, usually they catch fire while running, I think.

 

An EV cannot spontaneously combust at rest. However, if someone installs their 220v charging plug or fuse incorrectly, it certainly can. The singular anecdotes of house fires do not indicate systemic problems beyond that.

It always blows my mind that those who cannot be convinced the world is overheating are shaking in their boots their car will kill them by igniting an inextinguishable death fire at night in their garage.

 

I can think of a step you could take to reduce carbon dioxide emissions…

 

They absolutely CAN spontaneously combust at rest, hence this latest recall and why Chevy is telling people to park them outside.

No different than when iPhones and Samsungs were spontaneously combusting in people's pockets.

 

So you saying I should not trust General Motors who makes that car when they tell me not to park it in garage?

 

I'll just leave this here for those with memories as short as the range on a Nissan Leaf.

 

They cannot. There have been fires while charging due to bad connections. chargers. outlets, fuses, etc. and someone here mentioned a fire from a natural disaster where the cells were damaged, but these are aberrations compared to the millions and millions of EVs sold worldwide.

Comparing an EV battery to a cellphone is naive for two reasons. First, EV's have battery management systems that manage and monitor the cells even when the car is unused for months which your phone doesn't. And second, the lithium in your phone is a different chemistry. Early EVs with lithium cobalt and other chemistries were slightly more prone to a thermal runaway fires at lower temperatures (400 degrees ish). New EVs are made with lithium phosphate chemistries that do not have a thermal runaway until 550-660 degrees.

Opinions based on individual anecdotes instead of actual data leave you open to manipulation. I heard a kid once died from ingesting pop rocks and soda, Anastasia Romanov is still alive, and the Chupacabra roams the SW.

 

This guy knows everything.
The manufacturers of these cars know nothing.

There are MULTIPLE instances of these things going up in flames sitting idle. You are a blind moron.