I have the fly formula CC (carbon composite) .... I dont like the shape of it visually, but I feel safe it in. I know from experiences that that REON stuff really truly helps in minor head impacts. As far as knee braces, I think the mobiuses look bulky and hot to me. Spend the money one time and get a set of carbon Asterix's (the light ones). I love them.
That was my second reaction after the first being all school girl giddy at the thought. But with all the old, being new again it was a hopeful feeling
Im a believer in knee braces... of course I did a trail work day and was too lazy to put them on in the morning. Then later in the day I caught up with some other peeps that wanted to turn a few hot laps... which ended up with me just clipping a knee cap on a trunk last lap of the day. I considered it a warning to not relent on wearing them... they have taken hits and fall that would have resulted in bad injuries without. Im a low profile chest & back protector advocate... I mostly run a Leatt 3D airfit although I occassionally wear a full armor shirt for tight woods. Also a fan of the neck brace that integrates with the airfit. I detest the plastic roost guards. Helmets with gimmicks... meh. Ive seen 2 folks take concussion level hits in 6d helmets and refuse to send them in or buy a new replacement. Its not like either of them were pinching pennies to ride dirtbikes so... Id get a helmet that has the easy removal system or eject bladder. Kind of goes hand & hand with a neck brace. As far as jersey & pant kits... KLIM makes some nice stuff but $$$. I prefer my pants have the inner leather panel for bike grip. Boots... Tech 7s are very comfortable... Leatts & Fox are about the same on the protection & peg feel. Some folks like Garne for their tank like toe box.
I got Gaerne SG10's ..... saved me from braking my ankles too many times to count. Saved my feet and toes a million times too. I recently bought tech-7's because they are so much lighter than the SQ10 (super comortable too). Not near as much protection or build quality though. It's flimsy compared to the SG10. Imma wear the tech-7's on the xr100 and easy/chill YZ250 rides. When I really go (woods) riding, I be in my Gaerne's. I never ride w/out knee braces.
the Tech7s work for me because I dont have any toes to protect but the peg & bike feel is awesome. I had been wearing a size larger for comfort but not anymore. They are also comfortable enough to walk trails... can't comment on their snake proofness yet. Always a good idea to check boot mfg fit charts. Also Ive noticed alot of casual riders dont adjust the tension on their boots properly. MotoX guys seem to spend more time on that. I know Gaernes are heavier, in curb weight, but dont have hard comparison data compared to the Fox, Leatt, or Tech 7. And yeah my knee braces fit just about perfect with prev 3 boots mentioned so I dont need a calf strap.
Thank you Turbo I'm really short, cant ride a dirtbike for poop, bad balance, weak, etc, and i fall over a dozen plus times per enduro/rocky rides, and the bike falls on me everytime (i been pinned under the bike countless times), and almost broke my ankle through 'bending' pressure a lot of times, with the bikes weight. I dont know yet, but the 7's dont 'feel' like they have the same ankle-bend protection as the SG10's. Not sure though. The S10s feel like ski boots. My thyroid was about completely burned out + massive stroke, means i drag feet when I walk in tennis shoes, fatigued walking up a staircase.... Very very very weak and fatigued medically. I can feel the weight difference when my shoes get wet when washing car, everything is 10x heavier to me, super sensitive to small weight changes, because of that my S10's feel like they weigh 25-pounds each, and burn my energy quicker. I went w/ the 7's cause they were lighter. They wound up being sooooooo much more comfortable (on my specific foot/feet) ..... I absolutely love them. They fatigue me much less. If I didnt fall over all the time, I would be in Tech-7's all the time. After wearing the 7's, I dont like my Sg10s at all anymore. My situation is not normal, causing me 'fall overs' .... if i rode like a normal dirtbiker, I would be in the 7's. Thank you * When I bought the bike I also bought used Asterisk ultra cell 4.1 braces. Love them. Saved my knees from twisting and impacts a million times. They are too heavy for me though, so I wound up buying used Asterisk Carbon cell braces. Much lighter. They are both great though. Sorry for my lengthy post. And again, my situation is different, so for a normal person, none of this would matter.
Thanks for the help. I already have Tech 7s and I like 'em. I'll take a look at those helmets with emergency releases.
Curious what you guys think of this deal. 2023 KTm 250 SX-F 70 hours Top end has been done WP A-kit installed with zero hours Bike looks very clean overall $5,300 Would you guys even entertain this with the deals out there on KTMs right now?
Define A-kit. If it’s cone valve forks and trax shock that’s a very good deal. Especially if the stock stuff is included.
My only reservations on the 23s was it was a transition year and end of model run for many KTM dirt bikes so some got AER, some got Xplor, and some got early closed cartridge once inventory of suspension was exhausted. My buddy bought a 2023 XC from a dealer and got the AERs...lucky he is lightweight. Same dealer had another 23 with the newer CC suspension. Not sure what "A" kit is supposed to infer... Ive seen guys get special edition bikes like the Erzberg edition and they have the exact same forks as every other bike. One fella was bragging his SE Erzberg bike came with 6500 carts... then a friend with alot of setup & ride time on his 6500s & matching Traxx shock rolled up. Myths were busted that day...hehe (about $4300 worth of boingers)
None of the special editions and stuff have different suspension. And my husky is a 23 so it was missing a sealed chain and the brembo brakes but that’s the only real things that were messed with and only on the huskies I believe.
Not on the SXF versions... They all get the AER. KTM, gas gas, and husky's lettering names for bike, can change items on bikes. sx, xc, exc, sxf, xcf... Plus the "editions" (6 days, erzberg, race, etc...) If you dont know, or research, you could get or not get certain things, you think you want/need. "A kit" usually refers to "Pro MX/SX" suspension. WP cone valve and or trax shock, or kyb, showa pro stuff. Many people "think" they have "A kit stuff" because, they sent it out for respring, revalve and bought a bill of goods they know nothing about (other than what the suspension guy told them). They see other people putting this in adds, and use the phrase. But, some legit racer people do have this stuff and part with it from time to time. Especially if they are getting out of the sport, or switching brands. Ski
Im well aware of the variations... Ive read the spec page on the bikes on KTMs site & you will see dramatic variations on showroom floors. Maybe its the dealers or KTM. The chain type and brakes are the 2 most common Generally speaking Im a 2T guy as are most of the folks I ride with. I know the special editions are just farkeled up versions of the normal models but some do come with upgraded suspension. Hence reading the spec sheet & knowing what you are getting. Im of the opinion that dirtbikes are blank canvases... the ones that buy the SE versions maybe like some color & texture splashed on their canvas... the other buyer likes to add their own features or farkels. And to the point of "A" kits... racers will remove the stock forks & shock off of a brand new bike to install their "developed" & preferred boingers plus other accessories & body. After the season ends they sell the bike with the unused components when they are moving to a new bike or platform the next season. Like you said they only sell when they cant be recycled. I would question someone saying "A" kit like what series or district they raced in on top of the normal investigation. If unsure consult a trained professional... they can tell really quick if it is just sales copy. For 2024 KTM changed the headstock bearing arrangement so guys with the $900 Xtrig triple clamps had to cook up a way to make the new bikes compatible with the old style stem. The rear shocks are different as well.
KTM, Husqvarna and Gas Gas keep you guessing regarding components found on their bikes. I own a 2024 FE 350s. Same bike at another dealer I buy parts from has a different start/ kill switch. High beam indicator light in a different location. 2025 FE s bikes switched from BrakeTec to Brembo hydraulics. Scroll down to the 'Hydraulic Brakes' on their website below and tell me what the less-expensive 'Heritage Edition' offered in '25 is going to have for brakes. Be sure to both read the print AND look at the picture. I could point out more discrepancies. https://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com/en-us/models/enduro/heritage/fe-350s-heritage2025.html
it can be swapped out, but the sxf (or sx two strokes) come with a black tank and no kickstand. unless you ride only mx tracks .. this is a bummer. not being able to quickly see how much gas ya have, especially in a morning and afternoon or riding woods with buddies, sucks. the transmissions are very different, but either one works for woods use. many woods racers prefer the sx close ratio trans vs the xc/xcf trans with wider spacing (1st and 2nd are very close, then big gap to 3rd). 6th never gets used on an xc model unless you are on roads, or long transfer sections of an enduro.. or some harescramble racin with very wide open field sections, and a 250xcf won't pull 6th gear in softer soil or sand anyway (i know from personal exp). The 18" wheel is fine but not a big deal on the xcf vs the 19" on an sxf. some like the 18" with taller sidewall tires for woods use, but again, not a big deal for most. that said.. i have some reservations about the 23-24 models. i have 3 of the prior gen bikes (i have the 2019 and 2022 bikes). some improvements with the new bike, but some not so good stuff i'm hearing, that is keeping me from buying till the 25's come out, and even then, i may stick with the 2022's. air forks are fine if you are willing to play with the psi and figure out what works for you. ktm/wp went away from the air forks for xc/xcf bikes now.