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COTA $$$ Issues

Discussion in 'General' started by mfbRSV, Nov 11, 2015.

  1. mfbRSV

    mfbRSV Well-Known Member

  2. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    With how much the track cost, and the price to rent it, combined with their arrogance when it was first built With trying to be exclusive. Its not surprising at all honestly...:down:
     
  3. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    Been watching this story unfold and it ain't pretty.
     
  4. Riders Discount

    Riders Discount 866-931-6644 ext 817

    Indy said they were looking for another event after not renewing MotoGP.
     
  5. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    USA needs an F1 street race. Badly. That's another thread.
     
  6. Hawk518

    Hawk518 Resident Alien

    Don't know what to say?
     
  7. Dave K

    Dave K DaveK über alles!

    Oh well, it'll make a nice trailer park. It already has a giant mullet tower.
     
  8. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    Red McCombs is involved? It's failing because the public teat's running dry?

    You don't say?
     
  9. Suburbanrancher

    Suburbanrancher Chillzilla

    So really, what's the issue? Is this place as desolate and isolated as Miller? Does it run no other events for the main draw other then Moto GP and F1?

    Just trying to understand how so much gets invested, yet nobody involved has enough common sense to not drop the ball.
     
  10. 2Fer

    2Fer Is good

    While I don't normally like to see a track fail, due to COTA's arrogance in the beginning it is hard for me to feel sorry for them.
     
  11. noles19

    noles19 Well-Known Member

    They were greedy as shit. They expected f1 to cover everything, they pushed the original people involved to the side when they could and now it's biting them in the ass. Mainly because like everything else the newness of f1 went away and people decided to go to the Mexico gp, or back to Canada, it's the same thing that happens with every new track. They were just to arrogant to think it would happen to them..
     
  12. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    And they're begging for money on social media. Pardon me, encouraging people to beg for them.
     
  13. Razr

    Razr Well-Known Member

    Indy has been talking about F1 coming back ever since they left a few years ago. I think the new track layout would be much better for the cars, plus there's an American team and an American driver in the series now.
    The first F1 race there had the largest crowd of any F1 race ever…..bring it back.
     
  14. 83BSA

    83BSA Well-Known Member

    Regardless of greed or other less than appropriate initial actions, it appears that COTA's economic model is based upon a variable over which they have no control: public funding. While that might be fine for start-up, as demonstrated by the vagaries of the Texas Legislature, it is not a viable long term solution. I'm curious what, if any, plan in the financial model existed to move away from such substantial reliance on public funding? If there was none, then it was potentially doomed, or at a minimum, substantially threatened, from the start. The CEO's statement,"We're screwed," is inappropriate. It suggests that someone is failing to uphold a fundamental obligation,i.e., breaching their contract. But, with public funding, there are no unequivocal guarantees; even bonds have limitations. I suspect it is less of a "we've been screwed"scenario and more of a "we're in a bad position because we have failed to timely find a substitute for public funding."

    I hate to see it, and I suspect the economic impact COTA has had to the area would be sorely missed, making continued funding a practical solution for the state. But, funding a race track is most likely a hot topic when welfare and entitlement programs are being cut . . . .

    Cheers,

    Dave
     
  15. Shyster d'Oil

    Shyster d'Oil Gerard Frommage

    Sad, but I'm not surprised.

    It cost $400,000,000 by some estimates to build the track. I never understood how on earth that investment could be recouped, even with some level of public subsidization.
     
  16. tiggen

    tiggen Things are lookin' up.

    Bummer. I think money can be found south of the border, but it will be difficult with the Mexican GP being back on the schedule.

    I can understand taking start-up money from the public because it does bring revenue to the state, but eventually you have to stand on your own feet. Seems like the people in charge instead are sitting and waiting for their check?

    We need to get some struggling racers in charge; they know how to beg.
     
  17. Cannoli

    Cannoli Typical Uccio

    Get off my avatar!!!
     
  18. Shyster d'Oil

    Shyster d'Oil Gerard Frommage

    Also, I was hoping that the Watkins Glen repaving project would address its serious runoff issues and that bikes and F1 might return. But that does not appear to be the case.
     
  19. ped

    ped Banned

    Who gives a fuck. Places like COTA are lame with their exclusivity bullshit. Let it die.
     
  20. whitarnold

    whitarnold Bike #137

    I want to ride a TD at COTA, but is cost way to much....
     

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