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Another toilet question...no snakes though.

Discussion in 'General' started by Bugslayer, Oct 31, 2022.

  1. Bugslayer

    Bugslayer Well-Known Member

    The house we are building in Baja is done.
    1 out of the 3 toilets doesn't hold water in the bowl.
    You flush it, it has the usual amount in the bowl after the tank refills. Come back in 10 or so minutes and it's down past the outlet.
    What gives?
     
  2. R1M370

    R1M370 Dr. P Ness

    Global warming :D
     
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  3. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    Do you have a thirsty dog?
     
  4. Bugslayer

    Bugslayer Well-Known Member

    No dogs.
     
  5. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    Improper venting can create a back siphon.
     
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  6. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    Yep bad vent pipe. Could be clogged or bad design. Clogged is easy snake the vent. The other is harder but you can install a vent in the wall. They make a check valve setup thing so no stank and no need to run it up through the roof. I always forget the name of them though.
     
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  7. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    Oh and no dog! Commie deserves a bad working toilet!
     
  8. Bugslayer

    Bugslayer Well-Known Member

    The vent thing was my thought also.
    Which sucks. Slab floor, cinder block walls. Going to be a tough fix.
    What's perplexing is you can see the water level move up and down slightly when the wind is blowing the right direction. So the vent isn't clogged.
     
  9. YoshiHNS

    YoshiHNS Mr. Slowly

    Air admittance valve (AAV). Buy two so you have a spare. They are a wear item. Maybe every year. Not 100% sure. So put it somewhere you can reach.
     
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  10. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    I think per code they have to be. One company makes a box you put it in that allows are from the room as the in and you can pull the grid for access. Read you should not enclose them in drywall.
     
  11. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Are there building codes in Baja?
     
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  12. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    Buy two new wax rings and move a working shitter to this location.

    If problem follows the shitter, you’ve got an internal leak in the throne that’s draining the water down to the trap level.
     
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  13. Phl218

    Phl218 .

    :crackup:
     
  14. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I thought it was funny but assuming Baja Mexico I was mostly serious.

    Another thought with the level moving in the wind - if the vent is set up right and it's always windy it could be creating a vacuum in the system.
     
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  15. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    Maybe but probably not. However following code generally gives you good results. Sometimes it is lunacy, but usually it is good practice.
     
  16. Bugslayer

    Bugslayer Well-Known Member

    Did this. Problem stayed with the bano. So plumbing unfortunately. Mexican contractor actually bought a replacement toilet and problem stayed. He was going to buy another and I suggested we swap a working one instead.
     
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2022
  17. Bugslayer

    Bugslayer Well-Known Member

    Yeah, no codes in Baja, lol.
    We are way off grid.

    So are these AVV dealios the same as what they put in motorhomes?
     
  18. tony 340

    tony 340 Well-Known Member

    Are you on septic I assume ?

    All other drains in the house functioning?

    Are they above or below this location?
     
  19. eggfooyoung

    eggfooyoung You no eat more!

    Any chance they simply left a cap on top of the riser on the roof?
     
  20. Bugslayer

    Bugslayer Well-Known Member

    We are on septic. The house is all one level. There are a total of 3 vent pipes for various fixtures. All the vent pipes go up in the wall, then horizontal through the ceiling to an exterior wall.
    The roof is flat and is used as a patio. We didn't want the stink vented out on the patio.
    One vent pipe is for the Casita bano, sink, shower and toilet. Works perfectly. The second vent pipe is for the laundry. Seems to be working also.
    The third one has the kitchen sinks, the half bath (leaky toilet) and master bath, two sinks, shower and functioning toilet.
    The vent runs from south to north in the ceiling and is vented on the north wall. The kitchen is south, then the half bath and then the master.

    Too many traps on one vent? Too far of a run? Shouldn't be horizontal?
     

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