Another Boeing 737 Max-8 crash

This has shifted in the last 10 years quite a bit. The Boeing designed checklists are far simpler and the number of memory items has dwindled. For exactly the reason you mention. There's alot of shit you don't need to know to get the plane back down safely.

Engine fire / failure isn't even a memory item anymore because that thing can burn for 20 min out there without blowing up- and too many people shut down the wrong engine by memory. SO now we have a QRC (Quick Reference Card) for critical emergencies like this.

The only memory item checklists on the 737 are

APU Fire
Aborted Engine Start
Rapid Depressurization
Smoke / Fire / Fumes
Stab Trim Runaway
Airspeed Unreliable

Most of these are 1 or 2 steps. The rest is off the QRC or the "book" QRH.

 

He seems so normal every time I see him interviewed on cnbc,he was just on from Davos (WEF) the other day.No wonder Klaus invited him

 

WTF Gino? Lol.

My flying career ended 12 yrs ago if I stuck with it id be on easy street

 

So basically. “Cars speeding up out of control? Use cruise control!! Why won’t control turn on? It’s still speeding up, omg panikk!!!”
Instead of throwing it in neutral.
That the gist of max issue?

 

Thing I don't get is software (Mcas) is suppose to keep airplane in control but seems it was doing opposite.

 

Without getting too complicated- A small aircraft like a Cessna will have a natural nose down tendency during a stall, even if it's trimmed way nose up. The FAA really wanted that same behavior on the 737. The MAX with it's larger engines placed further forward had very light stick forces at super high angles of attack (stall) when thrust was above idle. The FAA didn't like that so Boeing designed MCAS to put a little nose down trim during extreme stall conditions.

The problem happened when the input into the system that determines when the aircraft is stalled (Flight Control Computers) gave bad data- so the MCAS was activating when it shouldn't have been. It also set off all kinds of alarms, which presented a very confusing situation to the crew. They were initially just flying the airplane and trimming against the runaway, but at some point they stopped and allowed the trim to continue to run away unchecked.

 

Yep . When George, our name for the auto pilot, isn’t flying how we want. Fire his ass and fly the plane yourself.

 

Maybe George just needs a little help...

 

A little manual inflation from the stews never hurts.

unless there is too much teeth involved.

 

Flaming Atlas Air Boeing cargo plane lights up the sky before making emergency landing in Miami

https://nypost.com/2024/01/19/news/atlas-air-boeing-cargo-plane-makes-emergency-landing-at-miami/

 

Nothing I like better than sitting at the airport lounge (MCO) reading through headlines about on-fire and crashing airplanes whilst getting ready to board my flight that's flying into wintery conditions upon landing.


Enjoy the weekend lads.

 

Thoughts and prayers!

 

Small plane makes emergency landing on snowy highway outside Washington
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/small-plane-crash-highway-dulles-washington-dc

 

Keeps on keeping on.

 

Not necessarily related to Boeing's foibles....but United's CEO has had a viral video of him released prancing around in drag, and he's also a big proponent of diversity hiring rather than based on merit it sounds like.

 

https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/

 

Holy moly! A whole lot of truths in that one. Too bad the rest of America seemingly could care less.

 

from the FAA: Boeing 737-900ER Mid-Cabin Door Plug Inspection
https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SAFO737900ER.pdf