Ahrma- jeff smith call to action

Discussion in 'WERA Vintage' started by footwork, Aug 21, 2008.

  1. charles

    charles The Transporter

    Karl, get serious here! You wrote that "AHRMA won't pay for that" (mailing to
    the members). Did you mean to say that some or all of the Trustees won't
    permit AHRMA to pay for that? :Poke:
     
  2. YAM#849

    YAM#849 y'all watch this...

    There is a service on the AHRMA website by which you can send a mass-mail to the membership via the communications office, but AHRMA will NOT simply hand out everyone's address, phone number, or email, no matter who's asking.
     
  3. Yamaha Fan

    Yamaha Fan Well-Known Member

    Very true Carl... and jumping to conclusions comes with a penalty similar to a meat ball flag when one jumps a start... best to avoid doing that to...
     
  4. OldSwartout

    OldSwartout Well-Known Member

    Well, if you think you can get the trustees to pay for a mailing to have one of the trustees removed, go for it. Obviously, you're a lot more optimistic than I am. :)
     
  5. charles

    charles The Transporter

    What should they worry about if they are confident they are
    serving the best interests of the members and the purposes
    of the organization? Are there written rules that specify
    exactly which purposes a member is entitled to mailings?
    If not, then the trustees have no choice; only their own
    obstinance and arrogance would stand in the way.
     
  6. footwork

    footwork Honda Research Analyst

    OK- I understand this might be getting out of hand and unorganized with accusations flying.(I can back up anything I have said as factual information) So here is my intention moving forward. I agree with some who have said that my petition has little chance to be printed in VV.At this point I agree , but I have a lot of signatures and emails that support Smith being fired. What I would like to is set up an AHRMA INTEGRITY COMMITTEE. I want to clearly lay out the issues we have with Smith and the ammendments that will need to be addressed to make it a balanced Association again. I want to post a website that clearly has these issues plain for everyone to see. The goals of the AHRMA INTEGRITY COMMITTEE are to purge AHRMA of mismanagement, dishonesty and financial waste. More to come on this topic.
     
  7. Moore007

    Moore007 Well-Known Member

    Does that rule out the 2 stroke guys..............hee hee hee.

    a little levity to start the day.

    wayne
     
  8. SteveThompson

    SteveThompson Banned by amafan


    Here it is: www.vintagebikeracing.com

    Maybe we can get some of this stuff off of Sean's board and get some good movement going towards a solution.
     
  9. ringdingding

    ringdingding TWO-STROKE MILITIA

    Thanks to Buff for promoting this message in a possitive way and making this issue known for all to see. Whether this message changes anything matters not. It is important to take a stand and turn that stance into action, it is commendable to all for doing so.

    Another action that should be considered is turning out for more WERA events for allowing this AHRMA issue to carry on for so long unimpeeded. A complaint I have heard in the past by Ahrma only racers is that WERA only races vintage on Saturday. True, but most vintage bikes can race on Sunday in Clubman, Lightweight Twins and D-Superbike. I am sure there are other classes also for the more modern bikes. So what if its not vintage, you might find yourself dicing it up with some modern bikes, even beating a few. (that always feels good)

    Richard Lucas
     
  10. ChuckS

    ChuckS Well-Known Member

    You gotta be kidding me?!

    Is anybody out there actually doing this?

    I just can't see a '71 CB350 out in D-Superbike...:D

    You must be referring to the later, larger Vintage bikes....post-85 or so?
     
  11. ringdingding

    ringdingding TWO-STROKE MILITIA

    I did say most vintage bikes and didnot consider a stock cb 350 as a bike likely to compete on Sundays. However a V-1,V-2 cb350, any year, can finish respectably in clubman, and is perfectly legal for the class.
     
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2008
  12. NYCNorton

    NYCNorton Holmeslice

    I've taken my Norton out in some practices on Sunday, just to get my $$ worth. Never done any Sunday racing though. Good to know.

    Now... back to flogging the (not yet) dead horse...
     
  13. ringdingding

    ringdingding TWO-STROKE MILITIA

    I have raced in clubman in the past with a not much more than stock RD, I see some other big names riding cb's also. Looking at the entries this year, the class isnt getting much support. If half a dozen or more vintage bikes entered clubman, we would dominate the class in terms of entries. WTF, we are here to race aint we, I will be in clubman my next race, anyone else?
     
  14. RZ Racer

    RZ Racer It passed tech LAST time!

    I used to race clubman on my rd. Even won once or twice...
     
  15. ringdingding

    ringdingding TWO-STROKE MILITIA

  16. ChuckS

    ChuckS Well-Known Member

    Wow, good to know.
    Never looked at any of the modern classes.
     
  17. SteveThompson

    SteveThompson Banned by amafan

    I think the bigger problem for vintage bikes on Sunday is no separate practice session. You will be practicing with some VERY fast bikes.
     
  18. ringdingding

    ringdingding TWO-STROKE MILITIA

    The extra track time will make you faster, without a doubt.

    Now, sorry for the threadjack, back to firing the socialist commy marxist Jeff Smithe and his Brown Shirts.
     
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2008
  19. ringdingding

    ringdingding TWO-STROKE MILITIA

    Any vintage competitor running two bikes already does, not a problem.

    Now back to firing the Commie, Socialist, Marxist and his Brown Shirts
     
  20. RB

    RB Well-Known Member

    It's amazing this kind of crap is still dogging AHRMA.

    Back in the later 90's I restored a green tank MR175 for a guy. He then decided to race it in the AHRMA offroad national series. The bike had a little smoothing in the ports but no timing changes. Stock carb, stock pipe with no baffle. Amazingly he won the series beating a guy on a ....... you guessed it ....... Can Am 175. The next year the MR175 got bumped up to the long travel class even though the stock MR [ and the bike I restored ] was 7" and 4" travel and fit the definition of 'like design' perfectly [ ie 74 Elsinore ].

    It ended up kinda a joke anyway because the MR's owner wasn't going to race it anymore. Needless to say the guy was amazingly fast. It is unfortunate that he didn't take it seriously back in the 70's when he would have been an awesome Six Days rider. Why would the people that run an organization do everything in their power to run off riders with such talent ??? Answer - ego.

    Oh yeah, the Can Am's rider's last name ????????

    Smith, Jeff's son. I never renewed my membership after this episode.
     

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