jumbos darethea gets the jumbo pack . they only have 4 dogs so she buys two packs . I'll do the math for you guys 4 X 2 = 8 . works for me. I'd buy them if they came in a 3 pack . I'm going to get a pack out of the freezer . the best to all . bill and darethea barnacle bill's 1106 logan road springfield, ky 40069