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2017 Vintage Rules Ideas

Discussion in 'WERA Vintage' started by Mongo, Sep 29, 2016.

  1. Hyperdyne

    Hyperdyne Indy United SBK

    How about a Vintage HW Twins Class. The TL's, RC's, 749/999 and previous Ducs. GP Machines legal too?
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  2. #156

    #156 Well-Known Member

    Sorry dave i have to disagree on monoshocks . I agree with ya on no thruxtons and air cooled bikes of that era.When tim joyce raced his thruxton it would have been to much advantage. v-4 rules are good the way they were, but no one seems to want to build a bike for the class for some reason.My 2 cents for what its worth. I will go with whatever sean decides.
  3. #156

    #156 Well-Known Member

    Put tim joyce on anything and he's hard to beat regardles of class. Why do you think v-4 is run behind these classes. Cause the era of these bikes are behind these other classes. Put good riders on anything and they will win.
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  4. notbostrom

    notbostrom DaveK broke the interwebs

    Just have Broome buy one of every vintage bike ever made and use his times to reindex the entire vintage rules structure
  5. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Rob is a good mark for the bike.

    You definitely have to factor who is riding when looking at laptimes - and track conditions and everything else of course. When comparing bikes I try to find bike/rider combos that I know, doesn't really matter if the rider is fast but that does help. Just helps if I know the rider and their ability level to judge the bike.
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  6. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    They weren't competitive in a class built just for them :crackup:

    I couldn't resist :D
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  7. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Shouldn't we use someone fast?

    :crackup: It's a pre GNF slay!
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  8. Outsider V6 V7

    Outsider V6 V7 Well-Known Member

    Mongo, I like the idea of a FZR 600 class even though I've never rode one. I think it would be great if this was SS mods only. Pipe and shock mods only. No flat slides, no pods, no wheel changes. Truly an entry level class as you can buy these all day on any craigslist for little money.
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  9. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    SS is tough given all of them that have been modded past SS rules - and there is the FZR 600/400 combo which is just plain fun.
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  10. Outsider V6 V7

    Outsider V6 V7 Well-Known Member

    But the Hurricane and Katana will be legal for this class?
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  11. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Maybe? :D

    Sorry - in GNF mode not next year rules so off the top of my head not sure what specific years I was thinking if I didn't post it earlier. Even if I did, ideas are welcome. I believe I was thinking same era as V6 is just add a MW - or look at the era before the F2/F3 and allow those MW machines.
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  12. yamageezer

    yamageezer Well-Known Member

    I think the FZR600 in supersport would be a great idea.
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  13. JBall

    JBall REALLY senior member

    Have your buddy come out and run a Clubman race where it's already legal (SS rules theoretically, just don't be too "superbikey" and he'll get by). I don't remember the displacement of a Thruxton, if its under 883 it could be a D-Superbike as well. Unfortunately, from what I've seen at Mid-O, those bikes are mostly competitive against themselves...
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  14. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Yeah, there's no way to make a class where they're competitive other than against themselves. Just too odd of a bike.
  15. Jeff McKinney

    Jeff McKinney Well-Known Member

    Allow gs550 and seca 550 in v4 the same 3mm overbore the kz/GPz 550 is allowed to have.
  16. joec

    joec brace yourself

    So, tim joyce allowed in on a thruxton, with one spark plug out. Fair?
  17. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    So, V6MW - gimme input. Year limits same as LW & HW? Any specific models that should be excluded or included?
  18. Outsider V6 V7

    Outsider V6 V7 Well-Known Member

    All Hurricanes should be legal as they were unchanged from 1987-1991. I think any year FZR 600 would qualify as well as any year Katana.
  19. fastedyamaha

    fastedyamaha Well-Known Member

    Why is the gs500 relegated to V5 and not allowed in V4? When I was racing against Sam Williams his 3mm over gpz550 made over 70 hp vs my 42 hp from my stock engine. Graver will verify that you can't get big hp numbers from this engine. I'm not asking for an exception to be made, was just curious what the reasoning was. Thanks!
  20. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Because it's Vintage which is racing determined by the year a bike was made not the power it makes or how it handles or the like. We have made exceptions for models that haven't changed since they were introduced but the model has to be the right age.
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