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School me on investing...

Discussion in 'General' started by noles19, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. Resident Plarp

    Resident Plarp drittsekkmanufacturing.com

    Just wait until Ivan walks over the Donets on the way to Kyiv and load up on Gazprom. Buy that dip and wait until that state-owned energy company starts pumping gas across the region without those pesky Ukrainians demanding a maintenance fee for the privilege of transit. Yeah, everything else will take a giant dump, but you'll have at least one winner (and buy defense stocks, too!).

    And WTF is a state-owned operation allowed to sell shares?
     
  2. Shawn A.

    Shawn A. Well-Known Member

    I jumped in with both feet yesterday and bought Bitcoin! I bought .00033159 bitcoins.

    I spent $12.50
     
  3. thrak410

    thrak410 My member is well known

    Careful there big spender! :D
     
  4. Shawn A.

    Shawn A. Well-Known Member

    No diversification here!
     
  5. SuddenBraking

    SuddenBraking The Iron Price

    According to @cortezmachine , you just set your grandkids up for generational wealth :D
     
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  6. Shawn A.

    Shawn A. Well-Known Member

    Screw them, it's everyman for themselves. They're going to have to rely on OnlyFans!
     
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  7. cortezmachine

    cortezmachine Banned

    I like you.
     
  8. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck

    What's Onlyfans? There can't be enough revenue in blowing air around to make a publicly traded company.

    What's the ticker?
     
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  9. Sweatypants

    Sweatypants I am so smart! S-M-R-T... I mean S-M-A-R-T!

    deadass for a second... but aren't the fees more than that just to do a transaction? haha
     
  10. Shawn A.

    Shawn A. Well-Known Member

    I sold some old part on FB Marketplace for $15. They paid with PayPal and when the money showed up I saw that PayPal will sell you Crypto. So I looked into it and you can buy as little as $1 worth of Bitcoin. So I said "What the Hell!" I bought $12 worth of Bitcoin on PayPal. I am one savvy investor.
     
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  11. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    Everything to the moon again. This ain't investing, it's straight up gambling.
     
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  12. Resident Plarp

    Resident Plarp drittsekkmanufacturing.com

  13. Jedb

    Jedb Professional Novice :-)

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. Rebel635

    Rebel635 Well-Known Member

    And the entire market just dumped cuz some old white dude said “no interest rate rise” WTF, I’d have though the market would love the continuation of cheap money.

    Fuck the market....honestly, the amount of $$ it would take to tank pretty much every stock and ETFs is insane....
     
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  15. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck

    Dammit @motion, I told you to stay the eff away from my AT&T!

    F it. Buying more.
     
  16. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    Wait...didn't it dump because they thought rates would go up, and it dumped because it didn't :confused:
     
  17. Aberk

    Aberk Well-Known Member

    Believe it or not, dip.
     
  18. Rebel635

    Rebel635 Well-Known Member

    The whole market is just algos trading against each other. Any movement is timed to correspond with a major announcement then the move is explained to us pleebs by the MSM.
    They also do the same thing with individual stocks. Ever wonder why stocks dump when the quarterly report was good? Yea cuz the dump had nothing to do with the report...
    this is why "Already priced in" BULLSHIT excuse always irriated me. Just say you dont have a clue why it did what it did.

    Options, futures, baskets, ETF aka all the derivatives now wag the dog. Its 10x worse than the casino. At least there you have some semblance of rules.

    imagive you're playing black jack but theres a whole nothing level of people betting on your outcome of the hand, and the cards keep shifting based on how many people bet for or against you.
    Just look at the Max Pain of a stock. Heavily manipulated stocks constantly finish right or just next to Max Pain. Max Pain BTW is the stock price at which the largest number of puts and calls expire out of the money.
    Think about that for a second. The number of put and call options somehow magically push the price towards where retail will lose the most amount of money. So ho well the company does? Irrelevant. New gadget they invented? irrelevant. New CEO? irrelevant. Changing the company direction? irrelevant.
    Theres another few levels of derivatives and how they move the stock price but im not gonna get into it.

    On one hand i knew it was back. Now? 100x worse than what i thought. SEC? DOJ? NYSE? All these entities designed to regulate and punish are at best complicit and at worse in bed with the Market Makers/Hedge Funds/Etc
     
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  19. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    So many times on a Friday afternoon, the stocks will tank when the options expire,And then go up in after hours trading....

    here i thought it was all in my head.
     
  20. Rebel635

    Rebel635 Well-Known Member

    Go check out GME after hours last week or the week before. It shot up from 130 to 175ish after hours then came right back down to where it was....no news. MSM tried to play off as if GME announced their NFT marketplace, which they didnt, and Reddit has known about their NFT plans for MONTHS. to infer that THATS why the price spiked, in afterhours of all things, then crash right back down is fucking criminal.
    Weird right? See the crazy thing about afterhours is that if you look up chart history, afterhours doesnt show up on 90% of trackers. I cant even go back and tell you which day it was. If someone doesnt follow the stock regularly they wouldnt have an idea looking at it historically.
    The consesus is that it was a blatant IV crush. Implied Volatility is one of the major deciding factors in how expensive the options for that stock are. A low IV means the options cost will be lower, since historically the stock hasnt moved, the gamble....i mean option makers are betting the stock doesnt move alot in the near future.
    You soar the price and then bring it right back down in after hours the IV is no incredibly high and all the options are expensive as fuck to buy, deterring a lot of people.

    I'll give this to them. A year ago, i had no clue how the stock market works, what options, IV, delta, theta decay, etc etc were.

    The fucking schooling i got...whoooo...well worth the money i suck into this casino.



     
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