yes, Justice Scalia, you were wrong

Do the workers get paid?

 

No, but wiki apparently does and that program searches a hell of a lot more than one source.

 

Nice edit. the first source you gave was about jail, not prison.
prison, not jail.

jails typically cost a lot more.

Wiki lists what i though it would list...there are cheap states (the boot) that charges 13k a year. and there are expensive states (cali) that charge up to 47k.

texas, which executes the most, is near the lower at 17

 

According to them...Brazil does...or rather the taxpayers.

 

It's almost midnight here. I'm done.

 

Damn, so you are in the M.E?


That explains it!

 

If any, not much.

 

Well poopies then. I guess 17 years of being facility manager for two doesn't count for jack spit.

 

Prisons are cheaper than jails, because, by and large, jails are filled with legally innocent people. One of the largest costs is medical care. Jails often get people committing misdemeanors just to get treatment for some chronic problem.

Vertical jails cost more to operate than a more horizontal layout. It takes more manpower because few jails will allow a single jailer to enter an elevator with prisoners. Gotta be at least two so manpower costs are higher. I would expect CA, NY, IL and other union states to have higher operating costs. Maintenance costs are higher in jails because your guests have all day to sit around figuring out how to screw things up. Some of them are quite devious.

 

ya, inner city jails are expensive as hell!

jails also need more workers per inmate than prisons do.

 

Ok, I understand your position now. Thanks.:up:

 

I agree. Remove all the niceties of life in prison and make it a place where one does not want to come back to. It's suppose to be punishment, not a facility of higher learning for criminal actions and watching soap operas on big screen tvs.

 

That is how the prison I worked at (angola) was run. It is the last prison left that still has a chain gang, officers on horses, and gun lines. They also have animal husbandry programs and is the last prison with a rodeo.

it averaged out to 34 bucks a day per prisoner, there.

 

IMHO, a convicted felon, if they get out, is not going to find it easy to get a job. A working prison could provide a skill that might give them a chance at something approaching a decent life. It can't be any worse than the current set-up.

 

I agree.
But losing your youth to a prison term instead of a death sentence isn't much better. You can't have those years back.

 

Any opportunity to jump on a Justice who's philosophy you don't share?

Yes folks, we are a polarized country...largely due to the idiocy of people like this, and their desire to score political points like sport.

Sigh.

 

The thing is, most of the prisoners at angola is serving life. Most of the dudes who do work are lifers.

If i remember right, the majority of the trustees were lifers.

 

You can still do something with your remaining years. you can only haunt people if you die.

 

Angola is only one of many. Not all are filled with lifers.

 

What is the answer to that problem? We certainly cannot allow criminals to continue to walk the streets just because they're young. What do we do with them?