why can't I just be myself around girls???

Now you know how we feel.

 

you didn't come from a generation of aspiring kim kardashians. while i cynically wish the world was how you two wish it to be, for anyone 21-35, it is not...

 

Do you know why I face palmed?

 

I suspect I got lucky then with my non-crazy redhead.

YMMV as well. I'm quite happy with my catch.

-jim

 

these are both my daughters in their 20's and I promise you that the guys they married did not play any stupid player games to win their hearts

 

....

 

without knowing any details, let me put forth two potential ideas:

1) your daughters (while your view of them in itself may be highly influenced and emotionally charged as them being your pride and joy) may be outliers. you can't use outliers to prove a point. they remain just that. everyone hopes for such a woman to come along, it rarely ever does.

its like watching a chick flick where every girl knows some girl, who knows a girl, who's sister dated a guy, who blah blah blah... when the reality is, banking your hopes and dreams on a diamond in the rough is a pipe dream and your energies are better utilized in other activities.



2) she probably has him by the balls.

 

When you find your counterpart....marry her. And you WILL know you are meant to be together
http://youtu.be/gPqtCz5uWTs

 

Might want to edit that post before you get sent on vacation lol

 

Lmfao

 

And, jesus, some of you guys sound like synopsis writers for The Game. You guys realize why you think so many women are vapid basket cases with daddy issues, right? It's because those techniques only work on vapid basket cases with daddy issues. Sure, if you suck up to a chick she's probably not going to find you interesting.. who would? The chase is what develops attraction. Flat-out ignoring someone hasn't ever gotten me anywhere with a non-psycho however.

Treat girls like real people. Don't fawn, don't ignore... just be normal. I've never heard the phrase "mind-gaming the pants off a girl"... the word is "charming"

 

for the record, still together

 

Going after a chick with a minimum wage job (when you're all grown up), never turns out well. Took me years to figure that one out....

 

Maybe partly. I have a feeling the OP was really asking as well

 

Do you want a date, or to be yourself? You can't have both.

 

Nope. Check out a few other threads and you'll figure it out. :up:

 

Better than Mr Eyebrow Ring ;P

though I can't talk, I rock the hawk now and had the eyebrow done in college

 

Well played sir!

 

Even though this post was a farce, it introduced me to the new concept of Captain-Save-A-Ho....so it was worth it.