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747 crash Afganistan

Discussion in 'General' started by cBJr, May 1, 2013.

  1. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Damn, that's the direct opposite of everything I was taught. But then again I never flew anything that big.
     
  2. 675AV8R

    675AV8R Jetski Extraordinaire

    High-power swept-wing aircraft have to be flown completely different from small aircraft, especially around the limits. This is why the MU-2 had such a horrible safety rating, it has to be flown like a large plane but low-time pilots from small aircraft were jumping in it and crashing it.
     
  3. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Thanks. I never knew why the MU-2 was such a killer.
     
  4. 675AV8R

    675AV8R Jetski Extraordinaire


    You've never done power-on stalls in a Cessna? You feel the burble, relax back pressure and decrease power as the nose drops, airspeed builds back up, add power and back pressure and maintain Vy until climb resumes.
     
  5. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Nah, never in a Cessna.
     
  6. 675AV8R

    675AV8R Jetski Extraordinaire

    It's a very complex airplane with a high wing loading. People wanted to fly it like a Cessna or a Kingair and you simply can't.
     
  7. 675AV8R

    675AV8R Jetski Extraordinaire


    Well, any small plane :D
     
  8. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Oh, I thought you meant there was something specific about Cessnas. Most of my flight time is on Pipers.

    Anyway, trying to think about it, I don't remember ever being asked to do a power-on stall during a BFR. So the last one I did must have been in 1992. :eek:
     
  9. 675AV8R

    675AV8R Jetski Extraordinaire

    I didn't do one either for mine. Definitely remember doing them in training though. It's pretty surprising the deck angle you'll get out of even a typical single.
     
  10. bitchcakes

    bitchcakes reluctant member

    Don't forget the Aerostar and even the Cirrus. High wing loading birds.
     
  11. 675AV8R

    675AV8R Jetski Extraordinaire

    Definitely. That was just the first one that came to mind because it was so bad for a while.
     
  12. dieterly

    dieterly Well-Known Member

    The 744 and the 748 procedure for Nose High Upset recovery is to reduce thrust and even roll if you have to get the nose down.
     
  13. Aaron71

    Aaron71 BEEMER

    We are still in shock over the accident that happened on Monday... Majority of the Base witnessed it...truly unreal!!


    RIP :(
     
  14. RGV 500

    RGV 500 OLD, but still FAST

    I agree completely.

    You get a big load shift AFT, and things get very ugly very quickly.

    As an example....

    An aircraft with a CG too far forward may not fly well
    An aircraft with a CG too far aft may not fly twice !!!
     
  15. Flex Axlerod

    Flex Axlerod Banned

    I once set the CG 1 inch forward on a Pitts Special RC plane by mistake.
    Kit build time: 23 hours
    Time to return aircraft to kit form: about 40 seconds.
     
  16. CharlieY

    CharlieY Well-Known Member

    Dayum....RIP.

    Who owned the plane?....a commercial frieght company?

    This place is amazing....on-site reporting of a crash like that half a world away.
     
  17. 675AV8R

    675AV8R Jetski Extraordinaire

    Yes it was contract, National Air Cargo or something like that.
     
  18. speedluvn

    speedluvn Man card Issuer

    It must have been an almost ready to fly kit with that short of a build time.
     
  19. speedracer170

    speedracer170 Well-Known Member

    RIP

    Hit's close to home, had a bunch of friends who arrived their less than 72 hrs ago.
     

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