This may show my age, but when I was in high school in Hanover, NH., the teachers smoked in class. The students smoked in all the bathrooms until there were two fires in six weeks, at which time the school administrators created five "Smoking Areas" around the school. Thus were created the first "dope corners" in a small NH town, where the dope dealers plied their trade. (I never actually used dope, but my friend Ernie did and this is what he told me.)
back in the 80's, the photography teacher looked the other way when we did one-hitters in the dark room. these days, it's illegal to smoke anything, pretty much everywhere; why would they allow it in a school?:crackhead:
In Vegas just a couple weeks ago there was a massive amount smoking just outside the high school (a designated area I suspect) and large amounts of it allowed in common areas in Vegas as a whole. I'm offended by this and I'm a smoker.
Sure... When non-smokers have no choice when standing in the lobby of Caesars? When sooner or later the likelihood of a smoker suffering serious illness, medical costs and general grief to their loved ones? It seems pretty obvious to me strongly discouraging smoking in regards to youth is a really good idea, facilitating it is a really bad idea, you not see it that way? I can only look at it from my own experiences. I started smoking really young and though I know there isn't much in life I can't decide to change, tobacco owns my ass! Sad but true.
Smoking was banned in my High School in the early 70's. Getting caught with smokes got you time in banned camp.
Don' go into the lobby of Caesers if it bothers you. The smokers loved ones aren't in charge of their life, they are. If they choose that life and to take those chances then so be it. Last I checked casinos weren't for youth so they're in no way facilitating anything. Sorry you're not strong enough to quit but projecting your own issues onto others makes no sense.
How do you feel about smoking bans in places like stadiums? Part of me feels like its bullshit, but the other part of me likes it for kids, so they don't have to sit next to it. As far as bars, its complete bullshit, IMO. For the record, I don't smoke. But I also don't begrudge those that do.
I don't care in stadiums if they have a smoking section away from people who don't smoke. What I find hilarious about bars/restaurants is that if not smoking was such a huge issue for people, why weren't there all sorts of non-smoking places catering to those customers?
There was a kid in my grade who smoked every day at recess in grade school from probably about fifth grade on. As far as I know, no one said a word. We were supposed to get suspended in high school but when they closed the teacher's smoking lounge we would sneak outside with a couple of teachers every once in a while. I doubt it's like that anymore.
do you mean why would there not be (for example) a non smoking Chili's and a smoking Chili's?? That does not sound very cost effective. If you mean having smoking and non smoking sections, just does not work very well...you can vent it all you want and the smoke smell is still there.
I don't get it when smokers gripe about not being allowed to smoke in public places (bars, restaurants). Why should they get special privileges? Seems to me the majority of people don't smoke, and it only takes a couple cigarettes to stink up an enclosed space. You chose to start smoking but I didn't. It's a fact that secondhand smoke can be harmful, so it seems like a fair trade to me that smokers should have to go outside. '96 grad and no smoking by anyone on school grounds starting around '90 I'd say.
Maybe is wasn't an issue. I still went bars and restaurants before the ban, even after I quit. About half the people I go out drinking and eating with smoke. I would never see them if I went to a pre-ban non-smoking bar or restaurant. Its was just something we all lived with. If one person in the whole United States does not suffocate to death from lung cancer due to second hand smoke, is the ban still not worth it?
No, if the non-smokers were having such a huge issue finding smell free restaurants, why didn't Chilis go smoke free on their own? Why did it take interference from legislators to make it happen? Smokers I know don't seem to have a problem seeking out and spending money in establishments that allow smoking. As for smoking/non - they work fine if separated properly, however most places didn't. Yet the non-smokers still spent money there. Weird huh?
I actually disagree... I think the free market would eventually decide how many smoking-permitted/not permitted establishments there should be. There's a burger joint here in Dalles called Griffs... back when I smoked I'd eat there every other week or so. Now, I might hit it once every three or four months simply because they allow smoking inside the dining area. If there was a non-smoking Griffs, I'd likely be there more often. I saw a review on urbanspoon.com last night that mentioned the author won't go there because they allow smoking. When I smoked, part of the draw was that I could smoke right after I finished eating. That's the free market. As for high schools, I graduated in '86, we had a smoking area but it was rumored to be closing starting in '87.