Same you can believe in...

That picture is so wrong......

 

Great, another blowjob in the white house scandal emerging.

 

Nothing wrong with a little man on turkey love...

Of course, this could lead to those human-animal hybrids that Bush warned about.

 

Damn, I wonder if that turkey has a blue dress.

 

My thoughts:

The people that voted for "change" were suckered.

Every President since I started voting in the late 70's has said they would change Washington, it never happens.

Too many doners to pay back, special interests ( that means unions too )
the Politics are too entrenched to change.

Party "A" can't stand to see party "B" get credit for anything, and vice versa.

Politics as usual.

Now that Brak is going to be our Prez, I really hope he does well, we all benefit from that. More funds for racin' and motorized toys, etc...

Just my $.02... And oh yea, Happy Thanksgiving!!!

 

I will judge BO by what he does and not by whom he hires.

 

+1. The time for conspiratorial guessing was before the election. January 20 we can start judging results. Guesses and predictions no longer matter.

As for change, I think right wingers are having a little trouble grasping that it meant change from them, not change from everything. It's a pretty simple concept really, I haven't been able to understand the confusion. And, well honestly, I don't think there really is any.

 

In all fairness, he also ran against Hillary Clinton on the change platform. She's hardly a right-winger.

 

In all fairness, nobody, [especially me] understands the left/right political spectrum anymore....

http://wconger.blogspot.com/2005/08/karl-hess-left-right-spectrum.html

 

Its relative. Change to me means get it working for the taxpayers best interest. Ford, Reagan and Clinton made good strides since you started voting.

 

Ann Coulter differs on that...

seriously, as much as I've forecasted doom and gloom about the Obama presidency, that he'll be the 2nd coming of Jimmy Carter, so far, his appointments seem more Clinton than Carter, which gives me cautious optimism that his presidency won't entirely be a trainwreck although Paul Volker does cause some concern to me..

 

I understand the attempt to make the comparison linear for simplicity, but the circle makes a lot more sense.

 

notice Hess [a longtime Libertarian/anarchist who was Barry Goldwater's speechwriter] put the current crop of left wing Democrats to the RIGHT of the current crop of Neocons....I thought that was interesting.

I always thought the left was total government/central control like soviet communism, national socialism [nazis] monarchies, etc and in the middle was "democracy" and the far right was total personal freedom/anarchy.....but the circle idea where both the really far left wing extremists and really far right wing extremists always seem to agree at least against the current always f**ked up administration does seem attractive.

 

Only if you're trying to explain away how wrong you've been all this time. ;-)

Liberals have always believed that government should be used to help people have better lives and can be effective.

Conservatives have always believed that government should be limited to it's most basic activities and cannot be effective.

Neocons, such as Cheney, Feith, Wolfowitz, etc., have always believed in the unlimited application of power because (as they believe) the strong are entititled to control the weaker.

And Facists, such as Bush (and Mussolini) believe that government exists to benefit corporations and the corporatocracy.

Notice that only conservatives believe that government is incapable of being successful. Given the mess that Bush has made, I think the case that government can be effective -- for good or bad -- is incontrovertible. Interestingly, though, I think he's ensured the demise of both Neoconservatism and Facism in American politics.

 

Must be cuz we're the only ones who work or know ppl who work in government at any/all levels. And no one takes the prize in wasteful spending than GOVERNMENT. If 90% of businesses operated the way our great government does they'd all go broke. Wake up already.

 

1. You've made a silly guess about working with or knowing people who work in government. I suppose that's obvious.

2. In case privatizing the war in Iraq wasn't a dramatic enough conterpoint to your assumption about public vs. private sector wastefulness, recent data tells us that little of the privatization of government services during the Bush years was more cost effective.

What you believe isn't supported by anything but conservative rhetoric. I'll wake up if you step outside the echo chamber, OK?

 

Cite please.

 

Don't expect any disagreement from the Obamafiles.
They never were listening to what he said, only how pretty it sounded.

 

Here's one sector summary: http://www.njspba.com/Documents/The Myth of Prison Privatization Cost Savings.doc

However you can learn whatever you want from Google, if you care to.

 

I am willing to give him credit for some of his choices.

But I have to agree that the whole "change" thing is a joke.

Obama has been transitioning from the far left to middle (maybe even middle right on some issues, or at least I hope so) and I think this is not a bad thing.