New AMA class structure and rules package

or, and this is speculation on my part ya know, someone with the power to do so could change it every few days.

 

I have to chuckle at the irony of an IT guy who can't find his password. Come on dude, don't let them do you like that. Hack your way in if you have to! You work for Microsoft for god's sake!

 

I have freshman (beginner/novice/entry level) students like this every year. They seem to crave attention so badly they don't really care what kind of attention they get. Usually by the time they are 15 or 16 (sophomore/junior) they start figure out the difference and smarten up.

However, this doesn't ALWAYS happen...apparently.

 

Is alt, control, delete really hacking?

 

One can only hope and pray that the AMA delivers on this "entry level lightweight" class.

The bike of choice is a whole other problem. The ninja 250 is a great platform for the armature club racer but for "Pro" usage I feel it's not the right bike. Something along the lines of the CBR 500 or even a 650 V-Twin class is more appropriate for those at that level, or any bike that makes around 60- 75hp for that matter. Tight Supersport rule structure with spec tire and allotments of 2 sets per race weekend will keep costs down.

Having a class where experienced racers can participate at a "Pro" level and not have to wrestle and finance a 600cc machine is awesome and what we need. With the lack of structure here in America it will help develop our riders and make for better racing and competition at the primer levels rather than bankrupt and force them out of the sport with heads hung low.....

Only down side I see here is the age restrictions DMG has in place. This needs to be available to our riders earlier in their carriers to prevent a plateau and subsequently a loss of interest or growth that will fuel them to the next level. I feel the appropriate age is 14-15 but from what I hear DMG is not flexible with their 16 minimum and there for this class will never develop and do what it's doing all over the world, producing great young racers ready and hungry to climb the ladder.

 

Too bad the oem's don't make hot little 400s like they used to.

 

I'd go for something relatively cheap to buy, relatively cheap to run, that teaches race craft and that you can run in club racing and flip when it is time to move up. Also need to make them look and sound cool to the average fan and looks different than the bikes in the other classes.

Please, No converted dirty bikes.

 

There is no entry level in professional racing.

 

You are not sure?

Dude.

Take a position. I would recommend Moto3 class with stock engines.

But I am stoopid.

 

How much does a moto3 chassis go for (sans engine)?

 

A lot more than a cheapskate like you will dole out.

-jim

 

Moto 3 is where it needs to be to develop here and transition no matter which continent you go to. Check the specs of the Moriwaki to a current Moto GP bike.very close and a dare I say it.... a proper chassis. they don't all have to be Honda powered. My next pick is the new KTM 390. It doesn't have to be the pricey CUP bike or capped at 390, why not 450 or even 500cc? KTM could offer up a race kit. IMHO the current path of a 250 to the SV not the way to go. At least for us.

 

The Moto 3 route is to costly and rider specific to work here in America and with our current economy. Add in the current age restrictions and it even further removes the Moto 3 type bike from the equation.
It has to be a bike that's readily available and can suit riders of varying size and skill.
The SV is a great bike and also the next logical step when coming off the GP and 250's as it stands here in America right now. Is it the best fit............

With this potential class there is a chance to refine that step and right now the CBR 500 is the best production machine to do the job and I'm sure the other manufactures will follow suit soon given the Hondas success! This class could benefit greatly from what is being displayed in World Superbike with the EJC. Proven and working so why not just adapt it here in the states....... No time to reinvent the wheel!

 

Proper gp spec you will spend $60,000 + (FTR, Suter, etc). Honda engine needs servicing often and is expensive. GP spec Electronics cost around $14,000. Moriwaki is very similar chassis to a Honda rs125. GPtech make a 250 yamaha powered moto 3 bike (lower spec than world level and on par with moriwaki) - around $15000. Very difficult to get pricing below $11000.

 

Tigcraft want 4,500 British pounds for a frame only

 

Beon want around $15,000 for a chassis only

 

CBR 500 5K new from Honda and throw another 3-5 K at it for race trim and you have a brand new dealer available race bike for under 10K. Factor in the spec tire and allotment of 2 sets per race weekend and your racing for about 1k per weekend plus travel and amenities.

Keep it simple and it will work!