what do you think of this

i think it does sort of look like he reached for a weapon with his right hand , but i do not like the actions of the officer. i think if you had a gun and an angry guy pointed at me and i was already in a mentally tough situation i would be stressed out and shaking and it would be hard for me to listen also.

i would have preferred he call for backup, leave the guy laying on the ground arms and hands spread, and stay in that position until backup arrives

really really disappointed in this one

 

I think it's a repost.

 

What a piece of shit

 

When the kid was lying flat on the ground with his arms outstretched why didn't they just walk up and cuff him at that point. What's the use of having him crawl towards you on his hands and knees? Doesn't make any sense.

 

Keep your hands in the air, cross your feet behind your back. Now crawl towards me. How the fuck?

 

It actually makes perfect sense and here's why (it's literally the only thing I saw he did right).

The suspect was encountered right outside of the hotel door. The view of the door is blocked because of the way the hallway sticks out. Because of that, in order to apprehend the suspect and reduce the odds of ambush from around that corner, they needed him further away from the door. He couldn't clear the unknown threat without standing on top of an unrestrained suspect.

 

Well, if there was anyone around the corner still in the room these knuckleheads gave them PLENTY of time to ready themselves and train any potential weapons at the door if you watch the whole footage.

You can skip ahead to 17:25

 

You mean like the whole 17 minutes of police voice commands before they got to the door?

 

Wrong person got shot in that video.

 

That too, but at least they were around the corner and not standing in front of the door repeatedly trying to open it with the obviously wrong key card...even better when the cop tries inserting it in backwards.

 

I wish I had your luck of hotel key cards opening the door the first time every time.

 

It's like plugging in a USB right?

I dunno, I look at the card, orient it as per the little arrow on it and 9 times out of 10 it works unless its been de-mag'd for some reason or another.

 

Right. So how many tries should they have done? At what point was too many for you? You think the 45 or so seconds they messed with the key card actually makes a difference compared to the 17 minutes before they got to the door? Please enlighten me as to what you would have done at the door.

 

If you are operating under the assumption that there is someone else on the other side of the door potentially with a weapon (which is what it sounded like you were saying earlier), when that possible someone heard cops AT THE DOOR futzing with it, then they could have very easily started firing through the door at them, no?

When cops suspect there's an armed assailant behind a door they need to breach it quickly and go in guns blazing right? they usually don't sit there fucking around with a key card for however long it was allowing whoever is inside to start firing through the door at them.

 

Note to self : in the extraordinarily unlikely event that you are ever in such a situation, pretend to pass out arms extended and legs spread eagle. Don't move. At all.

 

I think that in this particular case, he would shoot you.

 

Oh man...that was terrible. I get the reaching part being considered a threat, however there's a lot more to this that led to that moment and these cops are partially responsible for what led to that kid reaching.

 

He charged across the "fearing for your life" threshold with consummate ease.

 

Yeah in the event that the cop is yelling all kinds of stupid dance moves at you while pointing a gun I agree...just go limp spread eagle.

 

That’s murder. Always has been. Always will be.