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Discussion in 'General' started by Steeltoe, Apr 4, 2020.

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  1. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    Now try addressing the fact that Remdesivir causes kidney
    failure at high rates yet hospitals will still give it to patients
    with a history of kidney disease when it has shown no good
    results for treatment of COVID.
     
  2. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    The article you reference relates treatment using Remdesivir
    for Ebola to treatment for COVID, so the authors are relating
    the two diseases.
    The average mortality rate for Ebola is 50%.
    The mortality rate ranges from 20-90 %.
    Nice cherry-picking of statistics to try to make your argument.
     
  3. kenessex

    kenessex unregistered user

    Just because the 2 diseases may or may not be related, the statistics quoted from the study are for ebola not covid. The average mortality rate for ebola is about50%, but that is based on treated cases, not those that were in the study. I only mentioned untreated ebola mortality to give a frame of reference for the 53% quoted from the study.
    Unlike you, I didn't cherry pick any statistics, I gave them all and then some more to give context. I understand that for some, statistics is hard, but continue to give it your best shot and try to understand that there is a difference between causation and correlation. Ethically, it is difficult to withold treatment with fatal diseases, so the control group is often absent and we only have comparative statistics between treatments seeking that which is most effective. In this study, Remdidivir was the least effective treatment compared to the others, for ebola, but it didn't kill anybody, just saved fewer.
     
  4. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    Now address the fact that Remdesivir is useless when
    used to treat COVID while it causes kidney and liver failure
    yet they will give it to patients with a history of renal disease.
     
  5. Spang308

    Spang308 Well-Known Member

    Wait til you guys find out the same guy that patented Remdesivir is the same guy that developed the spike protein enhancement that the bat lady in China used to make Covid 19 infectious to humans without an animal intermediary host.
     
  6. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    Dang. Joe Rogan died?
     
  7. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck

    Keith Richards, too.
     
  8. StaccatoFan

    StaccatoFan My 13 year old is faster than your President

    Has Keith been told?
     
  9. 27

    27 Well-Known Member

    I don’t get the joke….?
     
  10. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    That’s because jokes are supposed to be funny.
     
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  11. CBRRRRR999

    CBRRRRR999 Well-Known Member

    I looked in pubmed for remdesivir and saw 0 results for renal damage mentioned anywhere
     
  12. Dan Dubeau

    Dan Dubeau Well-Known Member

    Did you check motorcycle forums though?
     
  13. Inquizid

    Inquizid Member Well-Known

    Let’s be real here, our public health institutions got a failing grade along with our supposed leadership. Billions in funding to ‘trust the science’ but also ‘don’t you dare question the science’ has left most regular people with a Covid induced bad lack of taste in our mouths.

    I have close friends who work at the CDC and others who are epidemiologists who refuse to have unbiased conversations or rational debates about any of it and that’s a shame. A free society cannot function without unrestricted dialog.

    So uh yeah, here we are on a motorcycle forum. I’m sure the mods don’t miss policing the dungeon, but I do miss the mostly civil discourse that took place there.
     
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  14. Dave Wolfe

    Dave Wolfe I know nuttin!

    We aint lived in a free country for 2 decades now.
     
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  15. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck

    You misspelled 10. (at least)
     
  16. Christopher Graybosch

    Christopher Graybosch Well-Known Member

    I think the takeaway here is that the government has been caught lying to the people countless times, over the last 100 years that we can definitively tell, maybe more. Scandal after scandal, caught, and for all to see. Ye the only justice is the few politicians who had enough guts to off themselves…

    but yea the gov is definitely not lying this time

    the only evidence that I have is my personal experience after catching the Rona a few times. The first time I can for sure say was Rona because I lost my sense of smell. The other times I have no idea because the testing kits were proven to be wildly inaccurate and I prob just had the regular flu.

    both times I was remodeling a different part of my house including replacing windows and remodeling a bathroom. The two week paid break from work each time really helped me get through those projects.
     
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  17. Dave Wolfe

    Dave Wolfe I know nuttin!

    The official "corona" case count has included corona pneumonia and flu almost from the start thats public knowledge.
     
  18. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    :crackup::crackup::crackup:
     
  19. tony 340

    tony 340 Well-Known Member

    I'd like to know where all the animal rights activists are on this one....silent.

    You know damn well that lab sacrificed thousands of monkeys and bats, dogs, cats, pigs, and whatever else they had their hands on.
     
  20. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner


    Strange bit of irony there....

    https://apnews.com/article/health-u...ational-news-7d8b0e32efd0480fbd12acf27729f6a5

    Most pandemics throughout history were dealt with using rudimentary sanitation practices, not administration of a vaccine. Vaccines usually only show up years and years after the problem has been dealt with anyway, so how could they have.
     
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