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Discussion in 'General' started by fastfreddie, Jan 27, 2020.

  1. fastfreddie

    fastfreddie Midnight Oil Garage

    Need help...electrical issue on an '02 7.3 F350.

    So the ol' diesel's dash shows a “battery” light...I was just driving along minding my own business.
    Get home, check voltage on both batteries while disconnected. Voltage is similar and reads good.
    Connect batteries, start up, both batteries charging within hundredths of a volt from each other.

    Waited a week to do anything about it. It's cold out, gonna get colder.
    Fire it up and let it idle 15-20+ minutes. Battery light and, now, ABS light are on. They don't go out.
    (I've seen the ABS light in the past, gotta reboot it with a short drive).

    Couple days later, grab an OBD scanner from my buddy, just cuz...no codes. Vehicle struggles to start and fails.
    Do a load test and crap, both batteries are done...surface charge only. I thought the batteries were from 5-6 years ago which woulda been a good life but, it turns out, they're stamped 01/17...NAPA Legends, kinda bottom shelf.

    Get new batteries, install, take a short drive. ABS light goes out as I was sure it would. Battery light stays on.

    Now, the important shit...
    I'm guessing a faulty alternator?
    Would a bad alternator give a code?
    Could it have killed the Legends if it was bad? It showed a charging status as indicated above...could it have just been a weak state of charge on “ghost” batteries?
    Not an auto guy so I'm not sure how to isolate the alternator to check its output.
     
  2. eggfooyoung

    eggfooyoung You no eat more!

    Sounds like you need a new alternator.

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  3. dudutzu

    dudutzu Well-Known Member

    Now, the important shit...
    I'm guessing a faulty alternator?
    Would a bad alternator give a code? No
    Could it have killed the Legends if it was bad? It showed a charging status as indicated above...could it have just been a weak state of charge on “ghost” batteries?
    Not an auto guy so I'm not sure how to isolate the alternator to check its output. Start truck, disconnect both batteries, alternator should be able to run all electronics in the truck
     
  4. BC

    BC Well-Known Member

    Batteries are good for 3years these days if your lucky. Swap them out and be done with it.
     
  5. fastfreddie

    fastfreddie Midnight Oil Garage

    That sounds like a plan. I take it the first thing to die would be the injectors and associated pumps, for sure telling me it's the alternator?

    Ha!
    I'd downsize if I needed that much alternator...
    [​IMG]
     
  6. BrianC636

    BrianC636 Well-Known Member

    AFM is bad. Needs cam and lifters.
     
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  7. Phl218

    Phl218 .

    LS swap it
     
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  8. tony 340

    tony 340 Well-Known Member

    Do load test on both batteries while disconnected and after charging.

    If either fails, replace both anyways.

    Make sure all connections are clean and go through fuse box.

    Then start and test batteries to make sure it is charging.

    Check and make sure your truck does not have 2 alternators. Some of the ones ordered with a plow package do have 2 ALTS. and you can have weird ass electric problems.
     
  9. turner38

    turner38 Well-Known Member

    Odds are it is just a bad alternator, unplug the connector on the back of it and make sure the light goes out, if it does the alternator is telling you it is bad turning the light on...Probably the diode in the alternator taking a crap, check the voltage with everything on, blower on high, wipers on high, high beams and see if it is over 13.8, then check for AC voltage across the battery and see if the diode is letting it bleed through.
    Voltage drop all of the cables with everything on also.
     
  10. fastfreddie

    fastfreddie Midnight Oil Garage

    I'm gonna start with unplugging the alternator...
    Thanks.
     
  11. eggfooyoung

    eggfooyoung You no eat more!

    Plug in to a new alternator...:D

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  12. StaccatoFan

    StaccatoFan My 13 year old is faster than your President

    Squirrels chew your wiring harness?

    don’t ask me how I know about that.
     
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  13. Bloodhound

    Bloodhound Well-Known Member

    Sounds like alternator (as stated previously). If you have a way to monitor output voltage it would confirm or you could take it to Pep Boys, AutoZone or whoever would run a free scan and it should stand out. Typically you'll get all kinds of crazy codes from low voltage to the ECM, TCM and ABS systems.
     
  14. fastfreddie

    fastfreddie Midnight Oil Garage

    Did that, didn't continue with the rest of your suggestions nor did I disconnect the batteries while it was running as dudutzu suggested.
    Light went out with the unplug, installed new alternator - no light and charging like a mofo.
    Thank you, Mr. Turner.
     
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  15. FZ1guy

    FZ1guy Hey...watch this

    It is time for an alternator. Easiest job in all of mechanic-ing.
    Summit Racing is your friend.
     
  16. turner38

    turner38 Well-Known Member

    Fixed that for ya.
     

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