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The banks & the Fed are at it again

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by Banditracer, Dec 5, 2019.

  1. Banditracer

    Banditracer Dogs - because people suck

    The bubble's going to burst again, there's another crash coming boys.

     
  2. GRH

    GRH Well-Known Member

    There's been alot of individuals/websites that have been saying that for 10+ years now, Peter Schiff is another one beating that drum. I'm not saying they are necessarily wrong but their timing has been way off and the fed has been able to keep things going alot longer than anyone anticipated. The stock market has kicked ass, unemployment has been low (depending on how you measure it), the fed has been pumping money into the system with seemingly little side effects. Will it all collapse, yeah someday but don't hold your breath.
     
  3. jrsamples

    jrsamples Banned

    Hadn't seen that, thanks for posting. I believe that some of it has merit. I know when I was a banker, funding your daily at the Fed window meant that you were scum and on life support. If those $ are rising as they claim, in an expanding economy, that's not positive, to say the least. I think that the comments on etfs were accurate.
     
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  4. GRH

    GRH Well-Known Member

  5. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    Did this throughout Obama's term. Not saying I like it but the reason it is getting press now as they (the press) are hoping to crash the economy so Trump does not get reelected.
     
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  6. Banditracer

    Banditracer Dogs - because people suck

    That's what I was thinking.
     
  7. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

    I saw or heard something the other day about how the inflation numbers were just as false or more than unemployment numbers. If you look at common items, cars, bikes, fuel, houses, electronics (phones), it sure seems like they are A LOT more expensive than they should be if corrected for the published inflation rates.
     
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  8. GRH

    GRH Well-Known Member

    I believe these are the most recent CPI weights
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  9. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew Registers Abusers

    over all there is a housing shortage in the US.
    That means rentals are at record capacity with lots more building going on in the multi family market from what I observed on a recent trip to NJ and driving around town here.
    All the new houses being built here, are mostly investor rentals... not new home buyers.
     
  10. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

    That might be a mortgage qualification issue too
     
  11. StaccatoFan

    StaccatoFan My 13 year old is faster than your President

    Which is a good thing because the last collapse was partially to blame because bankers were qualifying people for mortgages they really couldn't afford. The money was too
    easy to borrow and that lead to over inflated home prices. Eventually that bubble burst as we all know. Stricter lending practices helps avoid that from happening again hopefully.
     
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  12. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew Registers Abusers

    that could be a part of it... but multi family in north jersey is booming. I saw 4 developments on the hudson and the smallest had 5 stories the largest had 12. All walking distance to transport, shopping, lifestyle maintenance purveyors, etc. A friend in the local real estate area said the pricing is starting at luxury level and going up. For empty nesters or DINKs that want NYC living/views, on the water, for 1/2 the price of being across the river. In my home town, up the hill... developers built twin 30 story high rises that are exclusively rentals... and there is a waiting list. If the market turns... you will probably see it go co-op like all "old" high rises eventually do. A 1 br goes for $3000... a 3br $8500 per month.
     
  13. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    The plan was to increase home-ownership in the
    lower-income levels and it ended up doing just
    the opposite, the little people lost everything, the
    rich got the opportunity to buy up a lot of homes
    at fire-sale prices and a huge percentage of those
    former homes are now rentals.
     
  14. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    Amazing that the people who could not afford a home did not benefit when the market was forced to sell them one.
     
  15. sdiver

    sdiver Well-Known Member

    How do you know someone in investment finance doesn't have a clue? They publish their pet theory.

    If they really had market insight, they would take a financial position exploiting that knowledge and keep their mouth closed to maximize profit.
     
  16. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck

    Akshully....

    They take the positions first, on the cheap.

    Then they tell everyone else to get into it, driving the price up.

    Then they sell and buy something else. (and short the position that they just pumped up)

    Then they tell everyone else to get into the new next big thing, driving the price up. (and dropping the price of the last new big thing when everyone sells it to buy the new thing)

    Wash rinse repeat.
     
  17. sdiver

    sdiver Well-Known Member

    LOL. Big money doesn't fall for amateur hour.
     
  18. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck

    I've made a pretty decent penny on the precisely opposite viewpoint.
     
  19. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew Registers Abusers

    pump & dump...lol
     
  20. sdiver

    sdiver Well-Known Member

    Really? Then please do share! I'd love to find a strategy that can provably beat the bogle-heads over time. As would the rest of the investment community.
     

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