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School me on investing...

Discussion in 'General' started by noles19, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    uhhh...the ship has sailed. hopefully it keeps sailing, i may sell now that you joined. :eek:
     
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  2. thrak410

    thrak410 My member is well known

    Now I'm glad I stayed out of ETC! :crackup:
     
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  3. Sweatypants

    Sweatypants I am so smart! S-M-R-T... I mean S-M-A-R-T!

    seriously why do you keep doing this? its not healthy, beyond being financially dumb.
     
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  4. SuddenBraking

    SuddenBraking The Iron Price

    They haven’t legalized online casinos in his state yet?

    Honestly, no different than going to a casino - the house always wins.
     
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  5. Sweatypants

    Sweatypants I am so smart! S-M-R-T... I mean S-M-A-R-T!

    not if you play poker.
     
  6. Venom51

    Venom51 John Deere Equipment Expert - Not really

    Becuase next time they show them and walk away the winner... :D
     
  7. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    I don't know anything about poker but are you playing against the house?
     
  8. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    If he put in when he said he did, he's up already about 20% in a couple hours. Sounds like he did the right thing

    ~sent from mobile
     
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  9. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

    I'm aware. Its really just for fun... my long-term investments are already solid and I enjoy learning/losing/gambling with play money.
     
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  10. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

    Thanks for the tip, @BigBird ! I made 22% in around a half hour and got out. It was a little excitement for the morning :)
     
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  11. SuddenBraking

    SuddenBraking The Iron Price

    Yes. You're primarily playing against other players but there's a concept called "the rake" whereby the house shrinks the total available pie each hand.
     
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  12. rd49

    rd49 Well-Known Member

    Whats that come to after taxes?
     
  13. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    Everyone is different.

    ~sent from mobile
     
  14. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    ETC is up to$155... This fake stuff is crazy

    Wish I put more than a couple bucks

    ~sent from mobile
     
  15. rd49

    rd49 Well-Known Member

    Indeed, but the IRS is a constant.
     
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  16. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    well if he took losses during the year, those gains can offset them. so in that case it would be tax free ;)
     
  17. cortezmachine

    cortezmachine Banned

    GOD FUCKING DAMNIT!!!

    I tried to buy a fuck ton of ETC this morning at 100, but my bank kept declining the charge for some stupid reason

    160 and climbing. I’m pissed.

    I hope it has a big slump soon
     
  18. BigBird

    BigBird blah

    i had that happen with Binance during the DOGE run, continuous declines on varying amounts

    and that's not nice to wish a slump on the others that made it.
     
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  19. Sweatypants

    Sweatypants I am so smart! S-M-R-T... I mean S-M-A-R-T!

    no. other people... results may vary by how smart you are, the blinds you're playing, the time of day, how drunk or stupid others at your table are... but its the most "on you" thing you can do with cards and the casino has zero influence on what you do or the outcome of a hand, or the odds of getting the cards you want.

    no. the "rake" isn't "against the house", it IS... think of it like... the cost of being able to use their facility and have a dealer deal for you. in a $2/5 hand with no action, they take like $1. the max at my local casino is 10% or $5 max on a hand. if you're not in the hand, its not your money. if you're in the hand, chances are you're winning substantially more and who cares about the $5 rake. The rake holds no influence over the hand, how you play, what cards go to who, or what the dealer does. In a $2/5 game, you're sitting with $500-1000. Consider a "normal" hand with 3-4 players will be like $80 before the flop. If $5 against $80 before the hand really even starts with $1000 sitting in front of you is bothersome, you're in the wrong place.
     
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  20. SGVRider

    SGVRider Well-Known Member

    I’ve had it happen also. Always keep cash or a semi-stable asset in your trading account so you can jump on this type of stuff. Live and learn.

    I’ve seen comments that crypto will ultimately fail. I don’t think so. Cryptocurrency offers benefits that fiat money can’t match. If we learn to leverage those, then there’s an impetus to use it widely. If all it offers is a direct replacement for currency, it won’t gain widespread adoption. Eventually, some coin or coins will be created or adopted by mainstream institutions. Combined with expanded use cases beyond fiat, it’ll rapidly gain acceptance.

    The current behavior reminds of the dotcom boom, ridesharing and gig economy companies, and other overexuberant periods in which new technology came to the fore. Combined with an American state in freefall, rapidly disintegrating institutions and the trillions in funny money that same failing state keeps dumping to prop up this entire house of cards, crypto has a place. The total current market cap is extremely unlikely to be sustainable, but eventually clear winners will emerge and be co-opted by the oligarchy.

    Crypto is just the easiest use case for blockchain, but not the most impactful. Having a distributed ledger system is going to completely change society. Expect the system to bite back with both crypto and other blockchain applications as their grip on power falters.
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2021
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