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Reccomendations for Kitchen/chef knives?

Discussion in 'General' started by LabRat, Feb 17, 2014.

  1. LabRat

    LabRat Well-Known Member

    So my girls birthday is the beginning of next month. One item that she has asked for is a real good chefs knife set. Thinking like a 3-5 piece chefs knife/paring set.

    Any reccomendations? There seems to be tons of options out there now. Budget is about $200. The Damascus steel knives and the Asian designs look real sexy but have never used one. Know they are very personal opinion and taste involved but anything to look for or avoid? I have a handme down set of cutco so I have never shopped for knives really
     
  2. madcat6183

    madcat6183 2006 GSXR

    http://www.amazon.com/Wüsthof-Kitchen-Dining/b?ie=UTF8&node=291361

    Wusthof, by far the best out there and you can get what you are looking for in that budget. Get the good ones, you won't regret it, this was the best wedding present I got. Well minus my son 11 months later. Go get gift cards at Kroger for Bed Bath Beyond or Amazon and order them. Done and done.
     
  3. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

  4. Dave K

    Dave K DaveK über alles!

  5. dsapsis

    dsapsis El Jefe de los Monos

    Believe it or not, knives are a bit like motorcycle helmets. Fit and personal preference matter. For 200 bucks you can get a good three-piece forged set from Solingen (Trident, Messermiester, etc) like Dave's link above, but consider what knives you really need to use. You might be better served buying individual knives. Alternatively, you can get a great stamped set from Forschner (Victorinox), of probably 6 key knives. These knives are uses by many, many pros.

    Seek out a cutlery shop, and try to ask for a lady-salesperson with similar sized hands to comment on how the various options fit. Broadly speaking there are four styles of quality knives,: French, German, Japanese-German, and Japanese. They vary a lot is weight and balance, handle shape and importantly --blade thickness. My wife prefers a 6 inch chef knife to the vastly more common 8 inch standard. This is the one she uses. While it is American made, it is decidedly German in style. Another often overlooked source is Portugal -- Icel is very good value. Whatever you do, stay away from Cutco :D
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2014
  6. worthless

    worthless Well-Known Member

    Henckels are a good alternative, also.
    This is a decent starter set if you're looking for a countertop block for your knives.
    Keep in mind...just because you get good knives doesn't mean they stay sharp forever.
    Chefs Choice is a decent one. They essentially have 2 models - a 2 stage and a 3 stage. I like the 3 stage, but, 2 stage works decent too.
    If she isn't proficient with a honing steel, get a decent sharpener such as this
     
  7. worthless

    worthless Well-Known Member

    Why? I really like their cheese knives and scissors.
     
  8. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Good point, I know my preference on the chefs knives depends on the handle shape/size/angle in relation to the blade. Some it's 10, others it's 12, rarely but on occasion I've found an 8" I really like.

    That Lamson is nice, I like how the back of the blade is thicker and not sharpened especially for people who don't practice a lot. My Shuns will slice your forefinger if you're not paying attention and your hands/handle are slippery. Granted you may have an issue with the thick part catching as you slice but most people won't ever notice.
     
  9. Dave K

    Dave K DaveK über alles!

    Sam bought me a wustoff 10" chefs knife quite awhile ago and it was the go to over almost everything else. Great balance and it keeps an edge. She has a henckels with the rounded handle that I could never get used to and it is a pain to keep a great edge on.

    I bought a 8" wustoff chef that is now king of all the knives and the 10" almost never comes out. Sam even prefers it over her henckels.

    It really is what you like and the "feel."
     
  10. dsapsis

    dsapsis El Jefe de los Monos

    Basically because they are designed to tear food, not slice it. Search out the Cooks Illustrated knife test -- it explains it pretty well. For cheese, it might work well. :D

    Mongo also raises a good point: knives vary on how they design the bolster -- the rearmost part of the blade. Some -- like those Shun's, have polished blade all the way back, forming a cut tip; others have a portion of the back that is unsharpened.

    I get a kick out of watching Dave et al. go all fetish over wristwatches, but I think I am the same with kitchen knives. I have about 50. :eek:
     
  11. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    50? :crackup:

    Actually I probably do too but the overwhelming majority are generic crap collected over all the years since I just don't get rid of them. I've got 8 Shuns and only want one more, the 10" Chef. Also have a set of Warthers in the RV that are really nice and handmade in the USA - http://www.warthercutlery.com/

    So not including the Warther steak knives but including good paring stuff I've got 15 or 16 actual good knives.
     
  12. Dave K

    Dave K DaveK über alles!

    I'd like to get all geeked up over knives and I've shot the shit with Elmer about them but the custom stuff are tools that are above my ability.

    If they were a major part of my day you know I'd be spanking it to Sabatier and the porn of Bob Kramer. :)
     
  13. elvee

    elvee Well-Known Member

    For $200, and in general skip the knife block sets. You need two good knives to get through almost everything - a good chef's knife and a smaller utility knife. Everything else is gravy.

    I really like my Shuns, and I started out with straight up german style stuff. Right now woot has a couple of nice pairs for sale - http://www.woot.com/plus/shun-knives . What my wife and I like about them is that they are a bit of a compromise for us - the handle size is at the small end of the range for me, but on the larger knives is at the top of her range. They also hold an edge incredibly well. That makes them a bitch to sharpen, but that's life.

    Test driving knives is great to do if you can. Unfortunately there aren't that many shops that will let you hack up an onion on their counter.

    For price point, any of those Shun's are tough to beat. If she likes the drop point style, then the Premier is a good place to start. You can also check out Amazon for deals. Also check OpenSky (another sales site) as a lot of chefs and food writers have stores on there with knives.
     
  14. elvee

    elvee Well-Known Member

    Oh, and if you want to go custom, the sky is the limit. Bob Kramer is currently getting $1000 to $1500 per inch IF you can get on his production list.
     
  15. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    It is funny on the Shuns, I'd prefer a larger handle but holy crap I love those blades.
     
  16. elvee

    elvee Well-Known Member

    Some of their newer lines have larger handles now because of that complaint. Makes them even less japanese style, but user preference and all that....
     
  17. some guy #2

    some guy #2 Well-Known Member

    The biggest thing I found with my cheapo knifes if sharpening them. I don't get/care enough about nice knives but just a basic sharpening on my old knives worked wonders.
     
  18. Dave K

    Dave K DaveK über alles!

    I just don't "dig" the rounded handles. The size is okay and I can deal, it's just the roundish shape for me.

    Like what has been said, comfort.
     
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