New rider help.

Discussion in 'Information For New Racers' started by stirlingkeeney, Aug 26, 2018.

  1. stirlingkeeney

    stirlingkeeney New Member

    I'm sure this question has been asked before so I apologize in advance. I was wondering what bike would be good to start racing on. I've riding a 600 supersport on streets for 4 years now, but I haven't taken it to a track day yet. Having said that I'm a complete newbie to the track. My father is telling me that I should start on 250 or 300 to learn the art of racing before moving up to a 600. He also says the 600cc class is where all the brand new riders go to get hurt or killed. My problem with that is the 250cc class seems pretty small up here in the midwest and I feel like I'm too big for a 250 bike. I am 6 foot and 190lbs. So I guess what I'm saying is that I'm afraid I won't have much fun on a smaller bike. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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  2. Mongo

    Mongo Sacko

  3. dobr24

    dobr24 Well-Known Member

    Nailed it first try!

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  4. Dave Wolfe

    Dave Wolfe Well-Known Member

    Where r u at? If Chicago area, you'd be racing with CCS most likely. I dont think there is anyone left with a 250. Theres a few 250 chassis with 300 motors. Im 6' and 240 and race the 300 / 500 classes. Youd be fine at 190. Chicago area track days suck on a small bike. Less popular places (omaha / topeka) are much more fun.
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  5. Jon Wilkens

    Jon Wilkens Old Fart Racing

    SV650. A great bike to learn on, and more than fast enough when you DO learn how to go fast on a slow bike.

    Agree that the 600 novice class is a bit nuts...seen several instances of ambition overriding talent. I'd love to ride 600s...but not in that crowd.
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  6. stirlingkeeney

    stirlingkeeney New Member

    Thank you guys for the great advice. I'll definitely will look into getting a SV650.

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  7. Jeff Payton #82

    Jeff Payton #82 RIVER2STROKES WERA #96, OMRL #82

    somewhat in the same boat, solid '04 600RR has been offered to me for an entry level price but have been told SV is the way to go, i am looking to jump on a bigger bike coming from a gp 125, most if not all my riding experience is on small displacement. seeing the above comment about the 600 novice class being sketchy makes sense but is somewhat deterring. Is the SV novice class less sketchy? i realize speeds are slower so maybe there are less incidents - curious
  8. Mongo

    Mongo Sacko

    The only reason the 600 class gets considered sketchy is the number of riders is higher therefore more people to make mistakes. Percentage wise it's no worse or better than any other class. The main reason people suggest an SV - well, the main reason I do - is you'll learn more about going fast if you progress up through different bike sizes/speeds. Learning how to make a slow bike go fast helps a lot when on faster machinery. they're also more forgiving of mistakes and easier to ride giving you more of a chance to concentrate on racecraft.
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  9. Jon Wilkens

    Jon Wilkens Old Fart Racing

    I'd like to add, that most of us on SV's are of a little different mindset than 600s...

    Hopefully next year there will be a huge grid of SVs....was a little lacking this year.
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  10. jrsamples

    jrsamples Banned

    Well, I am the dumbest guy on here for picking the wrong bike to start on. Assuming that you get into a group which will have others to race, I recommend that you get the smallest displacement possible. You are going to make a lot of mistakes early on, and those are best made on those bikes. There is a lot of go fast on a 250 and cornering is where you learn. I didn't learn that way, and I crashed so much that it really took the fun out of going to the track.
  11. Jeff Payton #82

    Jeff Payton #82 RIVER2STROKES WERA #96, OMRL #82

    thanks for the explanation mongo, that makes sense. thanks to others as well. maybe I’ll stick to the RS and invest in that moto3 swingarm instead ;)

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