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DT-80 won't rev up

Discussion in 'Tech' started by SVbadguy, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. SVbadguy

    SVbadguy I survived the Mt Course

    This thing ran far better before cleaning the carb, replacing seals, replacing a crumbling original air filter, replacing the intake manifold with one that wasn't solidified to plastic and a new OEM reed.

    What gives? Can only accelerate at small throttle opening.
     
  2. pscook

    pscook Well-Known Member

    Check to see if the "expansion chamber " is full of oil. I had a PW80 that sat for a long time, and when they tried to start it (and me too), it would barely fire, and smoke like crazy. My assumption is that the auto lube pump kept pumping oil into a dry chamber (clogged pilot jet and other carb passages clogged) until it filled up the pipe. Once I drained the oil it ran like a champ.

    Is the reed fully sealing?

    How's the spark plug look? Brown, gray, white, or? Wet or dry?
     
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  3. britx303

    britx303 Boomstick Butcher…..

    We've got an rt100 that does the same thing from time to time,even after doing all the things you've done already. 3 times now its been cheap gas from 7/11 or some other crappy place.Once we drain it and put fresh fuel from shell or sunoco,it clears up. My daughter mixes up lawnmower cans from dirtbike cans sometimes,and thats when it happens to us,when she gets in a rush to fuel up to ride. So fuel supply?
     
  4. SVbadguy

    SVbadguy I survived the Mt Course

    The plug is still new with only a few miles. Light brown insulator, but wet with fuel. I just checked the carb again and I think I may have found the issue, I hope so. The new aftermarket needle wasn't seating all the way because just below the clip notches it was too thick. So it was raised the equivalent of the top notch 7 of 5. That will certainly richen it up. I sanded the needle some and it's now fully seated. I'll start it up after I eat dinner.
     
  5. SVbadguy

    SVbadguy I survived the Mt Course

    It works now. Still a little bit of a midrange hiccup, but it had that before.
     
  6. zrx12man

    zrx12man Captain Amazing

    Wow, I learn something new every day. I've never heard of someone successfully modifying a carb needle. I always wrapped them in tissue paper so they wouldn't touch each other in the box.
    I was going to suggest a clogged silencer, I ran into that on a DT80 once with similar symptoms.
     
  7. SVbadguy

    SVbadguy I survived the Mt Course

    So after going around the block with it running great, now I can't even get it to stay running. It will run for at most a second before dying. No throttle and no choke is the closest to getting it running. I've checked the pilot jet and it's not clogged. Tried a different pilot jet and that didn't make a difference.
     
  8. Brad

    Brad Swollen Member

    Put a new plug in it before trying other stuff. If it ran long as rich as it seems it may have, it wouldn't take long to foul it.
     
  9. SVbadguy

    SVbadguy I survived the Mt Course

    Changing plugs hasn't made a difference.
     
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  10. turner38

    turner38 Well-Known Member

    Make sure it has compression...

    Clean the stock brass and put it back in or atleast make sure it is identical.
    Check the timing and make sure the points havent closed up.
    Those things are pretty simple...
     
  11. SVbadguy

    SVbadguy I survived the Mt Course

    Yeah points will be the next thing I check. Last night I kicked it over with the spark plug removed. Despite turning over a bunch there would only be one spark per kick.
     
  12. pscook

    pscook Well-Known Member

    Those little carbs clog at the slightest hint of dirt. Clean it again and see how it does. And install an inline filter for protection. I had a little 50 that would plug up every 20-30 minutes, no matter what I did, even with the filter (yes, cheap filter). It doesn't take much to upset the delicate fuel:air balance in those carbs.
     
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  13. SVbadguy

    SVbadguy I survived the Mt Course

    I had the carbs off several times over the weekend, still no crud being left behind. Still seeing light through the pilot jet.
    No points on this, it's CDI.
     
  14. triplestrong

    triplestrong Well-Known Member

    Carboned shut exhaust port? Clear path from air inlet to carb mouth? Had a few little bikes carbon up to the point there was only a 1/8" hole for exhaust gases to escape. Exciter coil could be shitting itself as well. That one have reeds?
     
  15. turner38

    turner38 Well-Known Member

    Listening to it it sounds like the air screw is all the way in or the vents are plugged up. Could be a plugged exhaust or dirt dobber nest in air intake also.
    If it has good compression and spark at the right time make sure air can get in and exhaust can get out.
     
  16. SVbadguy

    SVbadguy I survived the Mt Course

    I've got
    It doesn't run like the video anymore after fixing the needle. It's just not starting now after riding it around the block with it running really well. But I think I've got it figured out. I've noticed that with the bars turned to the right I get good sparks. Centered or to the left one or no sparks. Just ran it briefly with the bars to the right and it shut off once I turned them to the left. So I'm going to being checking all the wiring in the headlight housing, could be one of the wires from the ignition switch.
     
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  17. SVbadguy

    SVbadguy I survived the Mt Course

    It was the kill switch wire. It don't remember being that way, but insulation was missing inside the headlight housing and I had wrapped electrical tape around it. That had come loose and the bare wire was making contact. I disconnected it completely and the bike is running as well as ever. :)

    Thanks for reading and giving suggestions.
     
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