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Discharged Ballistic Lithium 4 cell Battery

Discussion in 'General' started by spcassell, Jun 19, 2013.

  1. spcassell

    spcassell Well-Known Member

    So I tried cranking the bike after it sat for (gasp) six months. Battery was dead. Pulled the battery and put a volt meter and it read 5.59 volts. Reading the product data it said the battery is considered trash if it drops below 6 volts. Since I can't accept the fact that my only used one weekend battery is trash, I put it on a trickle charge (1.5 amps) for 40 minutes. Now the bike starts fine.

    Scenario....... Track day this weekend. Is this battery going to crap out on me.

    What is the appropriate way to charge these batteries.
     
  2. notbostrom

    notbostrom DaveK broke the interwebs

  3. MELK-MAN

    MELK-MAN The Dude abides...

    instructions are to charge no more than 15 min Sean .. and with such little diff in weight of the 4 and 8 cell, i went with 8 cells for my bikes. Lil' late for that now, but if you get one later go with 8 on a 600. interesting about the 6vt or lower thing , check the vts again tomorrow ?
     
  4. skidooboy

    skidooboy supermotojunkie

    can we get a definate answer on wether or not we can use a battery tender (name brand) to charge these? Ski
     
  5. 98VTRRider

    98VTRRider Well-Known Member

    When my 4 cell bit the dust I contacted Ballistic, then received a call from the president of the company, who quickly had a free 8 cell replacement sent out. Very good company to deal with.
     
  6. MELK-MAN

    MELK-MAN The Dude abides...

    no, you can't use a battery tender. This has come up multiple times.
    15 minutes on a charger. Da'ts IT .. ;)
    i suppose you could use a battery tender.. for 15 minutes ! :)
     
  7. spcassell

    spcassell Well-Known Member

    Thanks everyone.
     
  8. Suburbanrancher

    Suburbanrancher Chillzilla

    Ballistic's customer service is exceptional - they'll take care of you.
     
  9. Rebel635

    Rebel635 Well-Known Member

    Does the ballistic battery have balancing ports?

    The issue is that each individual cell may sit higher or lower than each other...so even though your overall voltage is XX, some maybe higher, some lower....if you keep it charged you're gonna be over charging some cells and they hate that as much as discharging too much.

    If it does have a balancing port, attach your volt meter to adjacent pins and read the voltage then move one over and read them all down the line.

    Also, you may have revived it, but you took a big chuck out of the life expectancy
     
  10. Metalhead

    Metalhead Dong pilot

    sp, I don't know jack about the ballistic batteries so I can't help with that. BUT, you might want to go to cycle gear and get the most low budget battery they have that will fit your bike. Charge it and take it with you as a back up. That's what I do.

    I take a spare VR too. Those two things tend to die at track days.
     
  11. Hyperdyne

    Hyperdyne Indy United SBK

    Chip and crew are fantastic to deal with. Both batteries I have had (4 and 6 cell) I took out of the bike during the winter storage and kept inside. Never had a problem.
     
  12. Kurlon

    Kurlon Well-Known Member

    I use a Batt Tender Jr on mine at the track between sessions. Once the day is done it only stays plugged in till it shows green, then unplugged over night.
     
  13. Rising

    Rising Well-Known Member

    I had a similar experience with the Alien Motion in my bike. I didn't measure the voltage but it was barely enough to get the nuetral light to illuminate. I figured I had killed it completely. I charged it at 2 amps for maybe an hour and it fired the bike like it was brand new. This was probably 2 years ago and the battery is still going strong. Maybe I got really lucky.
     
  14. spcassell

    spcassell Well-Known Member

    I'm hoping this is my luck.
     
  15. skidooboy

    skidooboy supermotojunkie

    i have the jr too, that is why i was asking. it doesnt have the desulfication mode. it is just a red light/green light charger.

    the ballistic website shows "no special charger needed" but, then there is the "suggestion" to buy their charger. i just want to be sure i can do this or not.

    i like to "maintain" the battery for long term useage as a track bike, it's one of those ocd things... Ski
     
  16. theJrod

    theJrod Well-Known Member

    If they are protected li-ion cells, they have a "sleep" mode when they're drained too far. Some are designed to be brought back to life after being charged. Li-ion batteries are significantly different than lead acid batteries. I'm not sure how they even work on battery tenders...

    http://www.batteryuniversity.com
     
  17. Knotcher

    Knotcher Well-Known Member

    Unless you are using the balance charger. In that case there are several options for charging.
     
  18. Cajun Kid

    Cajun Kid Well-Known Member

    Hey Bud,

    Give me a call at 920-545-4956 or email me at [email protected]

    It sounds like you may have saved it. If you have any problems with it I will get you sorted.
     
  19. notbostrom

    notbostrom DaveK broke the interwebs

    and Boom, there ya go...Ballistic is good peeps
     
  20. Mechdziner714

    Mechdziner714 More Gas Less Brakes

    So you can only ride for 15 minutes at a time, or do you have to disconnect the charging system?

    What exactly is the upside to these batteries, other than a pound or two in weight savings?
     

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